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PostSubject: Cleaning Bow Hair   Cleaning Bow Hair EmptySun May 02, 2010 11:17 am

uhmn....naisip ko lang,,
hawak ko bow ko kanina tapos napansin ko hindi ganto kadungis to nung napunta sakin ah....
tas yun naisip ko lang "Cleaning Bow Hair?"

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The best, and only, way to clean your bow hair is to use denatured alcohol and Kleenex. There are two kinds of denatured alcohol: wood and ethyl; ethyl (190-200 proof grain) is the best. In some states it's available only in liquor stores. Other denatured alcohol can be bought in paint stores. Do not use rubbing alcohol, as most rubbing alcohol’s have baby oil or soap and other added ingredients that you don’t want on the bow hair. Separate the hair from the stick and clean hair. Alcohol will damage or remove varnish from the stick, so let the hair dry before attaching to stick. After the hair dries tighten the bow and rosin. Cleaning will help the hair to last for years. Anyone telling you to re-hair every 6 months, or any time less than 10 years is just after your money!
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PostSubject: Re: Cleaning Bow Hair   Cleaning Bow Hair EmptyWed May 05, 2010 4:58 pm

Hehe gusto ko din to itry! pero good luck naman hirap pala maghanap ng denatured alcohol. hehe.

fuzz meron ka ba? penge! :D hehe
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PostSubject: Re: Cleaning Bow Hair   Cleaning Bow Hair EmptyWed May 05, 2010 5:08 pm

naiisip kong source is Chem Building sa UP. :D mwehehehe... baka may kilala kang faculty/lab manager. :P
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PostSubject: Re: Cleaning Bow Hair   Cleaning Bow Hair EmptyWed May 05, 2010 6:25 pm

bursky, actually yan din ang una kong naisip. :lol!: kaso wala akong kilalang mga taga dun. wehehe. you think meron dun sa stall sa SC na nagbebenta ng mga lab supplies? hmmm... teka, andun pa nga ba yung nagbebenta ng lab supplies?! hahah :lol:

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PostSubject: Re: Cleaning Bow Hair   Cleaning Bow Hair EmptyWed May 05, 2010 6:32 pm

meron bang nagtitinda ng TINGI na denatured alcohol?? kasi puro de bote ng San Miguel ang tinda sa Hardware supply store eh..
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PostSubject: Re: Cleaning Bow Hair   Cleaning Bow Hair EmptyWed May 05, 2010 6:41 pm

mang jun, patak patak na lang tayo. :lol!: wehhehe. meron ba sa hardware? hmmm makahanap nga ng true blue hardware. sa SM kasi ako nagtanong, wala sila. nagtanong din ako sa mercury wala din sila. hehe.
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PostSubject: Re: Cleaning Bow Hair   Cleaning Bow Hair EmptyWed May 05, 2010 8:03 pm

ou yung mga nagtitinda ng mga Lumber, Hardware, pako, mga pintura.. meron silang tinda..


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PostSubject: Re: Cleaning Bow Hair   Cleaning Bow Hair EmptyThu May 06, 2010 9:53 am

:-o meron dilang tinda, mang jun?!

ba, makabili nga nun, pang-organic cleaner :D :lol!:
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wakokokokok amff :bounce:
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PostSubject: Re: Cleaning Bow Hair   Cleaning Bow Hair EmptySun May 09, 2010 2:57 pm

fuzz, mang jun:

nakabili na ako ng denatured alcohol (tama ka nga mang jun yung bote parang yung bote ng San Miguel). ayun napag-experimentuhan ko na ang bow ko although me mga mali akong nagawa at nabasa yun bandang frog so mejo kumalat yung kulay ng varnish dun sa dulo ng hair :lol!: pero effective nga sha, talagang na-mute yung bow pagkatapos. :D

ginamit ko na din yung pansanlang rosin! hmmm. in fairness nga parang mas maganda nga sha talaga dun sa tipak na kasama ni nanding. :flower: wehehehe.
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PostSubject: Re: Cleaning Bow Hair   Cleaning Bow Hair EmptySun May 09, 2010 3:36 pm

pahingi... hehehe

masubukan nga yang denatured alcohol na yan.. Makkanu bili mu niyan ai?
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toink. mang jun nangina ti waybill kesa alcohol :lol!:

gumatang ak ti denatured alcohol sa (hehe) Handyman sa trinoma. 22 pesoses laeng! :lol!:

hehe arrgh nababasawasan na konting ilocanong napick-up ko sa opis. di ko na maalala yung iba :(
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Cleaning Bow Hair Shocked1

Akin ya antam so mansalita na ilocano ey? Akatalos ka manaya....

Hindi ko naman papawaybill.. nyahahaha ask lang ako para may idea.. hehhe
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PostSubject: Re: Cleaning Bow Hair   Cleaning Bow Hair EmptySun May 09, 2010 9:10 pm

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Akin ya antam so mansalita na ilocano ey? Akatalos ka manaya....

Hindi ko naman papawaybill.. nyahahaha ask lang ako para may idea.. hehhe

Waaaah! Anya dayta?!? Diak maawatan. :( Awan ti "antam, akatalos, manaya? ti vocabularyo ku" :( huhuhu.
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@waterdancer,

pinalitan mo na pala avatar mo. pag nakikita ko yung avatar mo dati naiimagine ko kakakasal nyo lang ni nanding, hehe.
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PostSubject: Re: Cleaning Bow Hair   Cleaning Bow Hair EmptySun May 09, 2010 9:43 pm

@clei
hehehe! yup pinalitan ko ng pic nila ng aking beloved homegrown rosal. heheh.

pero actually you're right din. bago pa lang kami ni nanding nung orig pic ko kaya halatang halata yung excitement wehehehe
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PostSubject: Re: Cleaning Bow Hair   Cleaning Bow Hair EmptySun May 09, 2010 10:11 pm

WaterDancer79 wrote:
Jeje wrote:


Akin ya antam so mansalita na ilocano ey? Akatalos ka manaya....

Hindi ko naman papawaybill.. nyahahaha ask lang ako para may idea.. hehhe

Waaaah! Anya dayta?!? Diak maawatan. :( Awan ti "antam, akatalos, manaya? ti vocabularyo ku" :( huhuhu.

Di mo talaga maiintindihan yun kasi pangasinan yun.. nyahahaha
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PostSubject: Re: Cleaning Bow Hair   Cleaning Bow Hair EmptyMon May 10, 2010 12:59 am

So far ang pinaka-effective para sa akin ang gumamit ng lumang sipilyo para kaskasin ang nanigas na rosin mula buhok ng bow. :d
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@beenie

hehe, triny ko na din yung toothbrush nung di ako makahanap ng denatured alcohol... kaso di pa din nag-mute yung bow :D tapos triny ko pati sandpaper! :lol!: ayaw pa din!

hehe yung sakin kasi, gusto ko talagang mawala lahat ng rosin ng bow kasi gusto ko malaman kung may difference yung bagong rosin na binili ko. :D in fairness meron nga!

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:p kaya pala di ko marecognize mga words! whehehe! ano yun? pangasinense o panggalatok? :D
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uyyyy ate lou nalinis ko na bow ko ahehehe...eto oh ganda na^^ :twisted:




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guys sa sobrang init natunaw yung rosin sa bow ko T_T amp haha :D
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FuzZ wrote:
uyyyy ate lou nalinis ko na bow ko ahehehe...eto oh ganda na^^ :twisted:





Mahihiwa ng Light Saver yang string mo. wag ka gagmait ng Doms nyahahahahha
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starWars strings gamit ko jan ahehehe....
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ahehehe...gawa ka din ung kulay green sayo :twisted:
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FuzZ wrote:
uyyyy ate lou nalinis ko na bow ko ahehehe...eto oh ganda na^^ :twisted:





ang kulet! :lol!:

waaah panu mu ginawa yun?! gusto ko din ng light saber bow! Cleaning Bow Hair Icon_bounce

hehe nung pinapanuod ko nga ineexpect ko na mahahati violin mo eh. :lol!:
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help po yung bow ko ayaw kumapit sa string ng violin ko.. begener pa ko kasi ako.. help po.. yung rosin ko hindi malagkit actually nag dagdag pa nga ng padulas sa violin ko... paano po ba ang tamang pag gamit ng rosin help naman po mga papsz^^
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kakabili ko lang ng denatured alcohol... nagpabili ako sa hardware sa kanto.. nasa bote sya ng gin.. yun na yung smallest quantity daw.. for only 25 pesos.. hihi!
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ganon meron sa hardware?? hmm...matry nga, wala bang libre jan?? haha
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oo.. haha! di kasi ako pumasok sa opis.. pinatingin ko lang kay ma kung meron tapos pabili na.. haha! kaya ayun, naglinis ako ng hair buong morning.. kasi natatakot ako baka matuyo yung hair.. hihi! slowly but surely Cleaning Bow Hair 760439
kahit yung mga kanto kantong hardware lang.. ethyl base yung kunin mo ha.. wag wood base. hihi!
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aha hindi pumasok! hahahaa.
di pa ko naglilinis ng bow hahahaha. lagay lang ng lagay ng rosin!
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bakit mong naisip mag linis ng bow hair?
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baka sobrang itim na ng bow ni cha... hahaha...
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haha! hindi naman... yung mga residue ata dati hindi ko masyado napupunasan ng maigi yung hair.. parang nagdidikit dikit yung hair.. mainit pa naman dito sa kwarto ko.. kaya siguro nagkaganun... hehe! yata lang ha.. haha!
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ah yung mga tirang rosin sa bow mo natutunaw sa sobrang init kaya nagdidikit yung hair nyan.. haha.:)
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PostSubject: Re: Cleaning Bow Hair   Cleaning Bow Hair EmptyMon Aug 23, 2010 1:18 am

The way I do it is, I use johnson baby shampoo(no more tears- you heard me right c'',)) ... sa luke warm na water to wash my bow hair...

I dont use alcohol etc... dont use strong detergents like laundry bar or joy ultra...

Tapos punasan mo sya with dry towel.. pa air dry mo... make sure na loosen up yun screw.. kapag tuyo na, suklayan mo para di sya buhol buhol

Not really that advisable to wash teh bow hair kasi... better have it rehaired.

Ensure na di mabasa yun bow stick mo...
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@reum.. honga.. feeling ko ganun nangyari.. hehehe!

@pikachoi.. yup! kinalas ko muna yung hair tapos sobrang paunti unti lang nilalagay ko sa cloth na alcohol.. tas nung pinapatuyo ko sya, para lang akong nangingisda para di dumikit yung hair sa bow.. haha! pag ginagamit mo si baby shampoo.. smooth naman sya after?
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PostSubject: Re: Cleaning Bow Hair   Cleaning Bow Hair EmptyMon Aug 23, 2010 4:29 pm

ang bow hair kasi ay walang pinagkaiba sa buhok natin...you just wanted to remove rosin... without making any damage sa hair like getting too dulas.... parang na rinse lng cya sa water kapag johnson baby shampoo gamit mo... wag mo damihan din un tama lng sa luke warm na water(aligamgam)
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This is how the professionals do it ...walang shampoo... done in less than 10 mins. >>>>>


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PostSubject: Re: Cleaning Bow Hair   Cleaning Bow Hair EmptyTue Aug 24, 2010 1:27 am

from my violin luthier friend fr TN who advised me, long time ago...

you can use denatured alcohol or xylene(pretty scary though)... then water and baby shampoo.

I skipped the alcohol and xylene since baby shampoo works perfectly.

Anyhow, I dont wash my bow hair anymore... all you need to do is to have it rehaired which is way better

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PostSubject: Re: Cleaning Bow Hair   Cleaning Bow Hair EmptyTue Aug 24, 2010 3:15 pm

@Choi

Re-hairing is expensive. If one has lots of cash and can easily spare some for rehairing then it is not a problem. But i don't see the merits of constant re-hair if it's only dirt that is on the bow hair.

Something "major major" like a re-hair in my opinion is for instances like decimated hairs on a bow rendering it unplayable etc.

One would not replace the floor of a house simply because there are dust bunnies around.... Cleaning Bow Hair 112191
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PostSubject: Re: Cleaning Bow Hair   Cleaning Bow Hair EmptyTue Aug 24, 2010 3:56 pm

Cleaning with denatured alcohol will dry your bow hair faster which will make it brittle in the long run. If you try check it out after rinsing on alcohol, residue is still sticking on your horse hair. That is why you find your horse hair after doing this procedure to be sticking to one another in tangles. Unless you add Xylene as told by my violin luthier friend from TN.

That is why we use baby shampoo in luke warm water.

The procedure above can't be repeatable, thus will affect your bowing due to lesser grip of the bow hair.

Re-hair is normally around less than 1000php here in the country compare to 100usd in California.

Normally done for at least once a year or every 6 months for professional players who play alot.

It is part of the maintenance that we should be aware of... c'',)















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You're the chemist, i have no further comment ... ;-)
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nagpapractice lang ako magpost RON... hehe

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@choi

it's still great that we get a chemist's perspective who can tell things about the "nature" of denatured alcohol ... diba ? ... :D
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pikachoi... question.. there are variants of 'no more tears' baby shampoo... i think there are at least 4 kinds... which is more suitable? baka may bumili ng milk bath na no more tears.. hehe!
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