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PostSubject: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Mon May 17, 2010 1:21 am

I'm frustrated kasi. May mga rosin dust sa violin ko na hindi na naaalis ng simpleng punas lang ng cloth. Pano niyo inaalis sa inyo?
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Mon May 17, 2010 3:50 am

Laway? Maganda daw un organic cleaner. heheheh Pero di ko pa natry. Aun punas lang ako ng punas eh, tapos swerte naman wala masyadong rosin ksi di ako mahilig mag reapply ng rosin ~_~
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Mon May 17, 2010 8:56 am

wah. may ganyan din ako prob. tamad kasi ako maglinis ng rosin residue eh. tsktsk...
namumuo na sa may bridge area. huhu...
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Mon May 17, 2010 10:39 am

3 timezZ a month lang ako naglilinis ng violin, ayun kuskus lang ng tela, ahaha tama ba yun?
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Mon May 17, 2010 1:10 pm

ako nga grabe ung rosin buildup sa ilalim ng fingerboard. d maabot ng tela eh. d tuloy makuskos. amp
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Mon May 17, 2010 1:15 pm

Ako gumagamit ako ng Eudoxa.. para hindi masyadong dusty.. maraming beses kagaya ko si Carl.. hehehe tamad mag linis.. nyahahah punas punas lang.. 2"x2" cloth lang gamit ko.. hahaha
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Mon May 17, 2010 1:28 pm

Konting punas n lng gagawin ko at di na ako gagamit ng polish. Gusto ko magmukhang antique. Heheh.

Dati kasi gusto ko shiny. Kya every week pnopolish ko.
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Mon May 17, 2010 10:09 pm

punas lang talga, bawal ang mga chemicals esp. ung mga Household cleaning materials (nakakasira sa varnish)...Art naman daw pag madungis tignan ang Violin...hahaha... pero meron akong nabili dati for Violin Talaga sya..PETZ VIOLIN POLISH, medyo mahal nga lang..
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:39 am

sabi ng teacher ko kerosine daw try ko nman kaso d ko matagalan ang amoy pag nag praktis. pero malinis nman xia
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:09 am

naku huwag !!!! .... inay ku pow !!! ....nakakatakut naman yun !!! pag noxious ang amoy ... iwasan mu yun !!! lalo na't liquid !!!
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:53 am

rhedlicop wrote:
sabi ng teacher ko kerosine daw try ko nman kaso d ko matagalan ang amoy pag nag praktis. pero malinis nman xia

Yon din advise nung dati kong teacher. super super onti lang. ginawa ko naman nawala ung sticky rosin build up, nga lang may smell. I'm not sure if I wanna do this if I have a hand crafted violin.
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:23 pm

eto ang suggestion ng isang Maker ng Historical Rosin
(baroque rosin recipie)
--->


"[...] I believe the "Colofonia Galeazzi Modo III" rosin can be used with all
types of string instruments, but should be used very sparingly. I
suggest applying the rosin to the bowhair
after playing, and not

before, since the "warm" hair permits
a better hold of the rosin and

avoids unnecessary dust.

I still hope to produce the "Modo II" rosin
as well someday, since it was, according to Galeazzi, the preferred
rosin of Nardini. I will keep you informed of my success.

Sincerely,

Dario Luisi"






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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:41 pm

Ako sand paper lang gamit ko
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:42 pm

ako tamad din mag linis, kaya sbrang dumi.hehe kaso pag pinunasan mo ayaw matanggal kung ppwersahin namn magagasgas un varnish, ung violin cleaner nmn ang mahal, si mang amador may tinuro sken, pag hahaluin daw ung denatured alcohol at water, pero kung di ka marunong wag daw gagawin..
kaya nag isip ako ng way na matanggal ung rosin residue, nakita ko ung eskinol na kapatid ko. success tanggal ang nankit na rosin.hahahaha pero i dnt thnk kung safe un.hehe
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Tue Oct 19, 2010 6:30 pm

gamit ko yung cloth na pang linis sa mga eyeglasses, hehehe... every after play, gentle wipe sa brigde area at strings... tapos sa ilalam ng bridge isang daan lang... manipis naman kasi yung cloth at di nakakagasgas, ayos lang na pang tanggal ng konting dust.
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Tue Oct 19, 2010 6:36 pm

^same here, yung cloth ng eyeglasses din ang panlinis, at minsan pag di ko makita yung cloth, pinampupunas ko yung damit ko, wahahah! basta cotton ang suot ko, XD
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:13 pm

Cloth lang din yung ginagamit ko panglinis sa violin after mag-praktis.
Minsan LCD display wiper. Pede naman ata xD
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:48 am

share ko lng ung ginamit ko...


eto po ung ginamit ko na panlinis dun sa pinahiram saken na violin.....





tapos po eto po ung comparison nung halfway-through-finished saka ung fully cleaned na po....





bale po kasi tumigas at kumapit na rosin po ung makikita nyung parang magaspang dun sa left part ng violin... actually ndi daw po kasi nalilinisan ung violin kaya po nanuot na ung rosin dun sa varnish.....
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:18 am

Sa akin lang, Microfibe lang ang gamit ko sa mismong violin at sa strings[separate] palagi ko nililinis ito after play. minsan medyo basa ang cloth pag may matinding smudges o malangis. pag sa matitigas na rosin na naipon, mag es-spray ako ng cologne sa cloth, hinde ko dinidiin o kinukuskus[NEVER!] pinapadulas ko lang ito sa violin hangang sa matangal ang rosin build-up.

Ung mga accessories lang nito ang aking ginagamitan ng "hand sanitizer o Disinfectant" kagaya ng chinrest, tailpiece, pegs, pin & fingerboard.

Umi iwas ako sa mga mass produced man-made cleaning and polishing agent, ayaw ko magkaroon ng unwanted chemicals ung mga instruments ko.
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:34 pm

I use dry cloth to wipe out Rosin build up after playing..

I usually clean strings once a week or sometimes once every 10 days..

Ginagamitan ko ng piece of cloth moistened with denatured alcohol.. I carry denatured alcohol in my case (nakalagay sa lalagyan ng camera film and it's air tight)
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:15 pm

sakin microfibre na cloth :D tapos everyday ko kasi cya nililinis hahaha xD kaya mukha cyang di ginagamet kala mo brand new
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:45 pm

Micro fiber lang..... no liquids, no commercially available cleaners.

i use soft tissue to clean the strings that come in contact with my fingers (preferably tissue from STARBUCKS >:))) ... kaya maramihan ako kung kumuha ng tissue)

1.) i use 1 soft tissue to wipe away the sweat on the strings

2.) another tissue to wipe away the rosin accumulated on the strings

3.) i use micro fiber but not every day ... witness ang ibang PV jan... :)))))


for the bow

i use another soft tissue to wipe and wrap around the area where i hold it - that is to protect the wood from the hard plastic of the bow holder inside the case... wala kasing protection ang baroque bow na leather wrapping / wala ring winding.
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:34 pm

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i use soft tissue to clean the strings that come in contact with my fingers (preferably tissue from STARBUCKS >:))) ... kaya maramihan ako kung kumuha ng tissue)

^Will this take care of the handprints on the body of the violin?
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:48 pm

@amrita: microfiber gamit ko para sa mga finger prints sa violin :D sa 14 pag nagkita tayu papakita ko sayu parang di ko cya ginagamet
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:40 pm

Secondhand yung violin ko so may rosin buildup na talaga. Natatakot akong linisin. Pero nao-OC talaga ko sa buildup. Argh!!! I'll try using perfume once lang. Sana hindi ma-damage.
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:21 pm

ayoko ng makintab na violin =)) pero okay yang panlinis mo huh, para like ko yan gamitin sa sofa namin na kahoy
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:22 pm

Eh marc parang di mo naman tala ginagamit eh =))
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:27 pm

ako gaya ni Near, micro fiber cloth lng... epektib !!! b(",)d
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:43 pm

soft cloth for the body. a separate micro-fiber cloth for the strings and the fingerboard. used two so that the oil in my fingers comes in contact with the body minimally as suggested by violin for dummies;)
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:45 pm

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Secondhand yung violin ko so may rosin buildup na talaga. Natatakot akong linisin. Pero nao-OC talaga ko sa buildup. Argh!!! I'll try using perfume once lang. Sana hindi ma-damage.


I think they have a discussion here regarding that fuyustale. And I think a majority of them here will dissuade you from that thought.
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:26 pm

Waaaaaaaa perfume, wagggg poooooooooo
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:34 pm

Wag po perfume kase alcohol based po ang ibang perfume at makakasira ito ng varnish ng violin mo, i suggest buy ka ng violin polish. sa sound essential store meron nun mga 900php pero ask for discount i think they'll give it to you around 800php dipends sa clerk..oh kaya po use microfiber cloth/kahit dry cloth po just wipe your violin before and after practice.
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:53 pm

KundarmaH wrote:
Waaaaaaaa perfume, wagggg poooooooooo

RED ALERT:

Ngayon ko lang nalaman. Anything na alcohol ay napapatigas[brittle] nito ang glue ng stringed instrument, lalo na raw ang animal glue http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_glue ginagamit ito sa pag repair para mabilis nilang mabaklas ang instrumento.

eeesh! hinde na ako mag spray ng perfume ang aking violin kahit kelan, para sa string na lang at pagtangal ng rosin sa top plate ^^;
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:57 pm

Oh no...
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:06 pm

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fuyustale wrote:
Secondhand yung violin ko so may rosin buildup na talaga. Natatakot akong linisin. Pero nao-OC talaga ko sa buildup. Argh!!! I'll try using perfume once lang. Sana hindi ma-damage.


I think they have a discussion here regarding that fuyustale. And I think a majority of them here will dissuade you from that thought.

Yup. Sorry. Parang nakita ko nga yun somewhere pero tinamad ako hanapin. I used my perfume hours ago to clean the area below the strings kung san may rosin buildup. It worked pero I will never do it again after reading all the replies here. Natanggal naman na yung rosin buildup eh. Soft cloth na lang from now on.

Hay sana wala namang naging major damage. Hay.
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:33 pm

@ fuyustale: ano ung violin mo? pag ito ay student lacquer finish, malamang pu puwede dahil hinde mo masisira basta basta, iwasan mo ung lugar kung saan nag dikit ang mga kahoy, mga bandang ribs, neck joint etc... si sipsipin ng glue ito. magigigiging brittle at baka bigla na lang kumalas.

Hinde ko alam kung ano ang diskarte ng iba, pero hinde sapat ang soft cloth sa pag tanggal ng rosin build up, kahit every practice mo ito lilinisan, meron at meron pa rin nabubuo. dahil talagang sticky ang rosin dust + ung moisture ng environment.

Spit/laway ang gamit ng iba, ako damp cloth with perfume pa rin, pero hinde ko 100% nalilinis, pero nababawasan ko kahit papaano ang rosin build.

EDIT: wag mo kukuskusin ng madiinan ang soft cloth sa violin ^^; parang pinupunasan mo ang sanggol nito :D
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:57 pm

^Machine-made lang po yung saken. Bachendorff concert series. Naging malinis na talaga sya ngayon. Na-OC ako kanina and cleaned the whole surface of the violin. Pero super konting perfume lang po yung ginamit ko. Nanghinayang din kasi ako kasi may kamahalan yung perfume eh.
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:17 pm

He he he, ako kasi perfume ng kapatid ko ang gamit ko[BVLGARI] kaya siguro hinde ako nanghihinayang, siya naman ang bibili pag naubos lolz! ganun din ang ginawa ko, pero sobrang ingat na hinde dumikit ung perfume sa mismong varnish, kaya may na iiwan na rosin pa rin[nabawasan lang] nagigiging sticky kasi ang varnish ng violin ko pag nalagyan ng alcohol ^^;

IMO wag mo e aim na sobrang linis ang top, kahit soft cloth lang kung madahas at mabigat ang pag linis, naga gasgas din nito ang varnish. in time lang mapapansin pag biglang namalayan na numipis na pala ung varnish. he he he, nangyari na iyan sa isang guitara ko, lacquer finish pa iyun... mas sensitive ang hand varnished.
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:59 pm

Nag promise ako kanina na once ko lang gagawin yun then cloth na lang. Maingat naman po ako sa violin ko kaya takot din ako mag-try ng kung anu ano. From now on simpleng punas na lang with a soft cloth. Promise!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:09 pm

baroqueviolin wrote:
eto ang suggestion ng isang Maker ng Historical Rosin
(baroque rosin recipie)
--->


"[...] I believe the "Colofonia Galeazzi Modo III" rosin can be used with all
types of string instruments, but should be used very sparingly. I
suggest applying the rosin to the bowhair
after playing, and not

before, since the "warm" hair permits
a better hold of the rosin and

avoids unnecessary dust.

I still hope to produce the "Modo II" rosin
as well someday, since it was, according to Galeazzi, the preferred
rosin of Nardini. I will keep you informed of my success.

Sincerely,

Dario Luisi"






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I willtry na to supr dusty kasi eh!!! ammf!
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:27 pm

kiko16 wrote:
baroqueviolin wrote:
eto ang suggestion ng isang Maker ng Historical Rosin
(baroque rosin recipie)
--->


"[...] I believe the "Colofonia Galeazzi Modo III" rosin can be used with all
types of string instruments, but should be used very sparingly. I
suggest applying the rosin to the bowhair
after playing, and not

before, since the "warm" hair permits
a better hold of the rosin and

avoids unnecessary dust.

I still hope to produce the "Modo II" rosin
as well someday, since it was, according to Galeazzi, the preferred
rosin of Nardini. I will keep you informed of my success.

Sincerely,

Dario Luisi"






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I willtry na to supr dusty kasi eh!!! ammf!


Medyo nabawasan lang ang rosin pero hindi ganun ka significant, hinde ko alam kung ano ibig niyang sabihin sa "unnecessary dust" dahil talaga magkakadust ang violin mo pag kumiskis ang bow sa strings. Pirastro eudoxa ang gamit ko na rosin ngayon.

EDIT: Mas gusto ko ang ang ganyang paraan, maganda ang tunof ng violin ko, kumakapit kaagad ang hair sa strings at nakahanda kaagad din ang bow :D


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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:10 pm

Uy talagang nahalukay pa ni Kiko yung post ko na yun
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:22 pm

@ baroqueviolin: dapat may naka sticky na general good tips for caring violin & bow. sa post mo na iyan ko inumpisahan ang ganyang ritual :D

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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:34 am

punas punas lang ng soft cloth!
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:38 am

Nawawala cleaner ko from sound essentials. So ang balak ko bumili neto. pledge moisturizer
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:41 am

@justin

pwede ba yan? parang i doubt na pwede siya gamitin sa violin baka makaepekto sa glue or other parts ng violin?
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:00 am

@ JUSTIN: nakupo huwag! pang furniture iyan hinde pang instruments. may mga residue iyan na kumakapit sa kahoy, hinde ko alam kung ano ang nagagawa nito sa tono ng instruments, pero siguradong mahihirapan ang luthier irepair and instrument mo pag build na mga ito sa kahoy.
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:18 am

^Tama

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use soft cloth muna habang ipon ka ule for polish ng violin,hindi naman ata kailangan everytime na magviviolin kailangan gumamit ng violin polish
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:44 pm

Pwede yung Pledge. I tried it. Walang pagbabago sa sound. At ayon sa reviews, madami din gumagamit neto.
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PostSubject: Re: Pano niyo nilillinis violin niyo?   Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:55 pm

ginagamit ko lang pledge sa Case ng guitar at violin hehehehe
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