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Hi, uhm, how do i start this... uhm... ang daming kong mga tanong
Nagsisimula pa lang kasi ako sa pag-aaral ng violin, and I do that on my own (which I think is probably not the best thing to do), kasi i have money issues :)

Hope you could help me answer this questions:

1. I bought this violin, hinahanap ko yung brand sa internet pero mukhang wala naman kaya I don't know i maganda ba siya or what. For 4k, ang brand name ay MOZTEO. Is that okay? Kung hindi, wala na akong choice, nabili ko na eh. :)

2. I recently read about cheap violins being adjust by luthiers, bali yung pagkabili saka pa lang pinaaadjust, and they say that the overall quality can be improved. At the VERY LEAST, magkano kaya ang aabutin sa pagpapa-adjust ng violin?

3. I really want to study under a teacher. Meron ba ditong violin teacher na affordable ang rates? :) I'm really on to saving money para lang dito.
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una welcome sa forum.. At para sa binyag ng mga bago, pls post your introduction sa Make your First Hello thread.. Tapos pakilala mo din violin mo sa PV violin Showroom..

Para sa tanong mo:
!. hindi ko pa narinig ang brand na yan but obviously pang beginner nga yan.. Same lang din ng price range sa ibang brand. Kung ok or hindi, siguro hindi naman nalalayo yan sa ibang beginner violins..

2. Malaking tulong din ang adjustment para sa violin. Usually bridge and sount post ang inaadjust. price, depende sa sakit na maayos. Additional info, a good rosin is a good investment. medyo mahal apero years yun magagamit. Ilang members dito sa PV (pati ako) ay gumagamit ng eudoxa kasi proven brand na talaga yan.
(OPTIONAL kung kaya ng budget)Tapos, try mo din gumamit ng Synthetic core strings although medyo mas mahal siya sa steel counterparts. Try mo lang yung mga murang brand like huayin, red label or Innig..

3. You can check Keystrings studio under teacher Liza Coroneza.. Aside from formal lessons kasi, nagcoconduct din ang PinoyViolinist community ng Group lesson/tutorial/EB/get together kapag may spare time.. Usually our music masters este teachers eh nagbibigay naman ng extra help sa mga students and loyal members dito sa PV..

Just Lurk around.. basa basa ka lang sa mga threads at madami ka matututunan..

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wow, thanks...
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to add to what Jeje had said...

- A student violin somehow becomes better when the bridge and the soundpost is adjusted by a luthier. Mine is Mozart student violin and I had it setup by Mang Anghel Gabute. The sound became better and nagrereverb na din. I recently used dominant strings and somehow I was more contented. All in all, siguro ang nagastos ko na is 8k para masetup ng maganda ang machine made violin. Included na dun yung Eudoxia rosin and an octagonal bow.

- Eventually you would want to have a better instrument. Most of us want a handcrafted one. Andun kasi talaga yung touch of art and yung quality ng sound. But for a beginner, a student violin is already fine.

- There are couple of lessons already posted in the thread. You may want to visit the help and support page. I think there are separate violin lessons directory there.

- enjoy the thread and enjoy the community. Welcome!!!
A big population of the community are beginners, so feel free to post and share your thoughts as well...
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8k for setup lang? whoa... hehehe...
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@juliusryan

hello !!! I'm new, and I have lots of questions 09

total lang yun ng lahat lahat ng pinaayos ni Carl sa violin nya kea 8k ... you have the option naman na "tipirin" yung pagpapaset up depende sa budget mo gaya ng sabi mo nagtitipid ka ... ako nagpaset up ng Bridge ...Bridge lang ... 300 petot lang ... I'm new, and I have lots of questions 513309 ... di naman kelangang Total Make Over kagad as in Overhaul ... ahahaha I'm new, and I have lots of questions 238898


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pwede ka mag start muna sa bridge at pegs setup kahit murang strings lang, pwede na yun para sa beginner
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agree with near and baroqueviolin.
yung 8k naman na yun ay ndi biglaan. gradual setup naman yun. pero lahat na.
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@juliusryan: grabe kapangalan pa kita!!! hahaha. pero walang ryan yung akin.

bridge muna paayos mo. mura lang yun.
Yung mga synthetic gut na strings medyo may kamahalan kaya i feel mo muna sa steel strings. Pagna feel mo na talaga ang violin mo at gusto mo na talaga i tuloy tuloy, dun ka mag upgrade.

san mo nabili violin mo?
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ngayon lang ulet ako nakavisit dito sa PV. thanks sa advices
@jurusu, uhm may nagbigay lang sa akin ng contact niya tapos yun nagmeet kami and all.
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hi! bago po ako dito, maguumpisa palang po ako matuto ng violin at mag 21 na ko next month hahah! hingi po sana ako ng tips sa pagpili ng violin, hirap rin po kasi akong humanap ng info sa internet tungkol sa mga model ng violin na nakikita ko sa mga store! ano po ba recommend niyo? mga under 5k lang ang budget hehe :D salamat! :)
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>>moyskie

kung may teacher ka na sa violin e pwede mo libre sa pamasahe at meryenda then isama mo sa pagpili ng practice set (student violin) sa Raon, Quiapo. Kung minsan kasi e makakahanap ka dun ng worth 2.5k pero katumbas ng tunog e 10k.. pero kelangan talaga suyurin mo at tsagain maghanap. Kung ala ka pa namang teacher e kahit sinong advance violinist friend mo isama mo, wag ka bibile mag-isa kasi minsan may mga minor defects na di mo mapapansin.. and specify mo rin na full size (4/4) ang kelangan mo kasi minsan may mag aabot syo ng 3/4 e baka di mo mapansin na maliit yun ng konti..
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may friend akong nagse set-up ng violin na di umaabot ang singil sa 8k.. minsan T.Y. lang binabayad ko.. kalimitan ang sisingilin lang nya e kung may magagasta sa gagawin nya like cost ng sand paper or kung kelangan ng new bridge, etc.. taga Pasay, violin collector and Luthier at the same time.. sino interested?
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sancti, salamat ah! sige subukan ko :) sobrang dami ko pang kailangang matutunan rin tungkol sa pagbili, mag aaral na muna ako sa internet hahaha!
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@moyskie
ang pinakapractical na mabibigay ko na tip pag bumili ka, ipatune mo dun sa mga nagbebenta, just so alam mo na pwede shang itono at matutugtog mo sha. Kahit hindi sila marunong mag-violin, pwede nila yung itune kasi usually meron din sila binebenta na tuner. hehe. tingnan mo kung nasa tono ba. especially kung wala kang kasama pagbili, yun ang pinakaminimum requirement mo dapat.

i learned that the hard way. kamo, meron pa akong kasama nun na marunong magviolin. Kaso ang mga lolo mo dun sa tindahan, ni halos ayaw ipatest yung violin kasi ayaw nila ipagamit ang bow. dahil baka daw di na bilhin dahil gamit na. haller naman kaya yun. so ang nangyari, pinatingnan ko na lang pagkayari, eh mukhang sturdy naman kaya yun na binili ko.

pero as it turned out, may problem ang pegs kaya di sha natotono. kinailangan ko pa ipaset-up para maging playable sha. well mas maganda tugtugin pag nakaset-up ang violin, pero shempre added cost yun. okay lang kung nasa budget mo. pero pag wala, mahirap na.

and speaking of budget, i started violin with around a little over 5k lang din. Kasi 3,100 yung violin tapos yung lessons, mga 2k+ (alanganin kasi sked ng teacher, so 6 na 30-min lessons lang ang pwede sakin. hehe)

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salamat waterdancer79! medyo parang hirap nga ako sa nabili kong violin, kapag tinotono ko o pinapatono ko sa kaibigan kong marunong, eh parang mabilis siyang mawala sa tono...dapat bang ipapalit ko? hanggang bukas nalang yung warranty niya kasi, sana may makapagreply agad! salamat :)
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Wala ring kasiguruhan na walang defect ang maipapalit eh.. Pagipunan mo nalang pang pasetup.. hehe
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hasslehoff haha well parang gumagaan na rin naman ng gumagaan yung feeling niya, baka lang dahil bagong bago yung strings? nung nakuha ko kasi ito kakadeliver lang rin! pagtiyagaan ko nalang nga siguro muna tas bahala na si batman kung ano susunod na mangyayari sakanya :D salamat :)
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>> moyskie

yep, pag bago strings e malaking factor sa pagkawala sa tono.. tingnan mo rin ang brridge baka yumuyuko.. tsaka dapat tinutulak papasok ang pegs pag tinotono, pag lumuluwag e lagyan mo ng chalk dust ang peg hole at pegs or lead (no. 1 pencil)..
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hi moyskie! ooops sorry ngayon na lang ako napadpad dito uli.
congrats on your new violin. tsaka yup, ganun nga talaga pag bago yung strings, madaling mawala sa tono kasi nagsstretch pa yung strings or something.

at least yung violin mo, natotono. haha yung sakin lumipad na bridge ayaw talaga kaya napilitan kong ipaset-up kay mang amador na kasi gusto ko na magtwinkle twinkle. I'm new, and I have lots of questions 917627 nagulat sila pareho ng teacher ko sa pagpaset-up ko ng violin na napakamura wehehhe.
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@waterdancer79
San ang location ni mang amador? Tnx
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Hello Moyskie ako nabili ko ung Violin ko sa RJ store heheh!
almost 3k lang siya nung tinest ko siya sa Store maganda tunog kaso pag dating ko sa bahay
May deperensya pala sa Pegs I'm new, and I have lots of questions 651389

kaya nabali siya.....

tama sila na kung magpapasetup bridge muna bago ung pegs and sound post

@ Sir Sancti hehe ako po Interesado sa Friend nyu po hehehe Pwede po pakilala?
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