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Subject: use shoulder rest or not Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:24 am
kailangan po ba ng talga ang shoulder rest?
pinoyviolinists Admin
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Subject: Re: use shoulder rest or not Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:51 am
Kung ayaw niyo po wag na magshoulder rest Kasi this will take a very long debate.
li0nh3a12t Höfner *Adik magpost*
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Subject: Re: use shoulder rest or not Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:32 pm
depende lang po yun sa preference nyo kung magshoulder rest or not. kung san ka mas comfortable magplay w/ or w/o shoulder rest, oks lang. hehe...
danica Bachendorff
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Subject: Re: use shoulder rest or not Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:29 pm
tnx.. kasi parang mas pogi ang violinist kapag may shouler rest u know parang pro.. hahahah.. go na lang ako sa yes.. tnx
cha_hime13 Höfner *Adik magpost*
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Subject: Re: use shoulder rest or not Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:34 pm
depende sa preference.. ako may shoulder rest kahit hindi pro.. kasi mas komportable ako mag play at mas nagagrasp ko sya kapag meron.. yung iba naman mas sanay na walang shoulder rest. =)
luigi-kun Sobrang Spammer. Di na nagprapraktis
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Subject: Re: use shoulder rest or not Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:06 pm
lol!!! hahahaha nakakatawa naman ung mas pogi at pro na! hahaha amp ako ok sakin kung meron man o wala. tama si admin mahaba habang patatalunan ang tatahakin nitong topic nato lol
pikachoi2007 Bachendorff
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Subject: Re: use shoulder rest or not Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:47 am
mas lumalabas ang sound at buo ang sound ng violin mo kapag walang shoulder rest...
Depende din kung medyo mahaba ang neck mo, medyo need mo ng shoulder rest
mas ok kung maglagay ka ng foam underneath nlng
flamemaster666 Cremona
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Subject: Re: use shoulder rest or not Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:04 pm
depende yun...ako kelangan ko talaga ng shoulder rest kase wala akong talent para ipitin ng leeg yung violin...at mas comfortable pag merong ganun.
kanjiruminamoto Höfner *Adik magpost*
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Subject: Re: use shoulder rest or not Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:02 pm
Shoulder rest or not?
there are so many reason Why a person who plays violin do not or need to use a violin shoulder rest
first the Reason why a person need to use a Shoulder Rest 1. for easy playing 2.to correct the proper violin hold and posture 3. most of all if a person is low shouldered, long necked and the violin always slips the handler's shoulder
the not users 1. high shouldered 2. has the ability to held the violin between the chin and the collar bone resting to the shoulder 3. most of all looks like a professional!
that's all!
jurusu Höfner *Adik magpost*
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Subject: Re: use shoulder rest or not Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:19 pm
ako kailangan ko ng shoulder rest kasi may control ang violin ko pag may shoulder rest. wala naman tama o mali dito. nasa preference lang ng player.
roland Höfner *Adik magpost*
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Subject: Re: use shoulder rest or not Thu Sep 30, 2010 9:31 am
@jurusu pareho tayo, ako kasi nagsslide ang violin pauna pag walang shoulder rest so kelangan ko tlga
roland Höfner *Adik magpost*
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Subject: Re: use shoulder rest or not Thu Sep 30, 2010 9:33 am
im wondering, pano kaya kung hindi naimbento ang shoulder rest?
kanjiruminamoto Höfner *Adik magpost*
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Subject: Re: use shoulder rest or not Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:06 am
hahah! RDGyap pareah po tayong nagiislide ang violin pag walang Shoulder rest at Katulad ni Jurusu Nahihirapan akong magcontrol hahah!
Kaya need ko ng Shoulder Rest kasi Malaki ang Gap ng Chin ko sa Collar bone at Low Shouldered talaga ako so need ko ung Shoulder Rest
roland Höfner *Adik magpost*
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Subject: Re: use shoulder rest or not Fri Oct 01, 2010 3:49 pm
XD oonga, buti na imbento ang shoulder rest!
kidlat Bachendorff
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Subject: Re: use shoulder rest or not Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:16 pm
kung walang shoulder rest walang violin......ano kya kung walang chin rest shoulder rest lng.........?XD
roland Höfner *Adik magpost*
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Subject: Re: use shoulder rest or not Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:45 am
^bakit kung walang shoulder rest walang violin? haha, pano po mangyayari yun, dati naman wala talagang shoulder rest ang violinists, pero me violin naman, hahaha
baroqueviolin Sobrang Spammer. Di na nagprapraktis
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Subject: Re: use shoulder rest or not Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:07 am
@rdg
dati kasi ilang patung patung na layers ang mga damit .... as in under garments... undershirt, vest, waist coat ..... at makakapal yun... Lalo na noong Baroque ... tadtad pa ng ribbons ang costumes ng mga musicians at Pang araw araw pa ito ... ^_^
The King's Cabal - Musicians of the English Court c. 1660s - 1670s
roland Höfner *Adik magpost*
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Subject: Re: use shoulder rest or not Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:42 pm
@brq yung statement ni kidlat ang pinagtakahan ko...
kidlat wrote:
kung walang shoulder rest walang violin......ano kya kung walang chin rest shoulder rest lng.........?XD
roland Höfner *Adik magpost*
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Subject: Re: use shoulder rest or not Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:43 pm
@brq kaya pala nuon di na kelangan ng shoulder rest.. ang kapal ng damit, XD
baroqueviolin Sobrang Spammer. Di na nagprapraktis
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Subject: Re: use shoulder rest or not Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:04 pm
nyek di ba parang baliktad un ???? alin ba nauna ? para mawala ang isa ? ... hehe ...di ba nauna ang violin ??? hehe
baroqueviolin Sobrang Spammer. Di na nagprapraktis
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Subject: Re: use shoulder rest or not Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:07 pm
@rdg
at eto ka pa ... naka Skirt ang mga Lalaki nung time ni Louis XIV 1650s - 1680s .... ahahaha
roland Höfner *Adik magpost*
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Subject: Re: use shoulder rest or not Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:41 pm
^hahah, grabe namang kapal, nakadress pati mga lalaki hahah! baka dahil mas malamig noon, gawa ng "little ice age"(which is theoretically one of the reasons why strads are the best sounding violins-cooler climate=denser woods) kaya kelangan nilang makapal ang damit.. :)
baroqueviolin Sobrang Spammer. Di na nagprapraktis
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Subject: Re: use shoulder rest or not Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:54 pm
perhaps ... hehe....
anyway another trivia is mas malaki at mas makapal ang takong "talons" ng shoes for men vs. shoes for women
climate change... hehehe.... noon dito sa subdivision namin malamig parang Baguio....as in may mist every evening and every morning kasi - 1. very few houses 2. lots and lots of big trees... .... parang laging pasko sa lamig ... ^_^
baroqueviolin Sobrang Spammer. Di na nagprapraktis
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Subject: Re: use shoulder rest or not Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:58 pm
@rdg
short skirt for men, syempre LONG skirt (exclusive) for women. May painting/drawing si Louis XIV na naka "jupe" bandang 1666... the year Jean-Féry Rebel was born. :)
out of fashion na yang ganyang Costume nung time na nagcocompose na si Vivaldi at Handel ... ahahaha.... "high baroque" aka late baroque na kasi sila ... tight fitting na (laos na ang loose) ^_^
roland Höfner *Adik magpost*
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Subject: Re: use shoulder rest or not Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:10 pm
@brq ganun, parang dito sa lipa, nung lumipat kami sobrang lamig, laging doble kumot ako at nakamedyas pa pag natutulog, ngayon hindi na masyado malamig. pero compared to other places na lower elevation(like cavite, kahit gabi minsan ang init), mas malamig padin lipa..
OT na tayo ron, hehe
umm, napansin ko dun sa lumang violin, necessity para sakin ang shoulder rest kasi nag sslide pakanan yung violin pag wala, pero dun sa yita violin, kahit walang shoulder rest, OK lang.. pero mas OK padin pag meron.. hehe
luigi-kun Sobrang Spammer. Di na nagprapraktis
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Subject: Re: use shoulder rest or not Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:06 pm
ako ok lang kung meron o wala. pero mas nadadalian ako pag may shoulder rest. mas madali magshift directly from 1st to 5th position above
baroqueviolin Sobrang Spammer. Di na nagprapraktis
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Subject: Re: use shoulder rest or not Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:15 pm
@rdg
nope, i don't consider costumes and the climate "OT" ... related sila sa shoulder rest remember ???? hehe
luigi-kun Sobrang Spammer. Di na nagprapraktis
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Subject: Re: use shoulder rest or not Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:16 pm
hahaha panu?
baroqueviolin Sobrang Spammer. Di na nagprapraktis
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Subject: Re: use shoulder rest or not Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:21 pm
@luitzy
back read ka ... hehe
roland Höfner *Adik magpost*
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Subject: Re: use shoulder rest or not Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:27 pm
@brq ehehehe! sabagay, dun nga pala nag ugat yung usapang thick garments and little ice age...................
@luigi ganun nadin sakin, pwede na kahit meron or wala SR, mas ok lang pag meron.. :) kaso ako hindi pa nakaka5th position, 1st palang, XD
Fox Bachendorff
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Subject: Re: use shoulder rest or not Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:42 am
meron ako nbasa to know if u need a shoulder rest or not..
gawin mo un proper hold ng violin, kpg secure na chin mo sa shoulder rest,, uhm dahan dahan mo i layo ang left hand mo sa neck.. BUT MAKE SURE NA WAG SORBRANG LAYO NA KAMAY MO basta wag lang msbe na nghahang ang violin mo at naiipit mo between sa chin at shoulder mo ang violin,.
KUNG kya mo imaintain un form without any fatigue or pain ok lng kht wala shoulder rest
pero KUNG nahihirapan ka imaintain na straight un violin mo tska mo need mg shoulder rest.
PS nbasa ko lng po yan ndi ko pa actually naeexperience na meh shoulder rest but im planning to buy one.. kse nhihirapan ako imaintain un form ng violin kpg free hand ko xa iniipit between my chin at shoulder
BluePipes Cremona
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Subject: Re: use shoulder rest or not Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:53 pm
Para sa akin, use a shoulder rest. Nahihirapan ako kapag walang shoulder rest. Di ko ma-balance si Apollo at masakit sa balikat.
pinoyviolinists Admin
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Subject: Re: use shoulder rest or not Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:16 pm