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PostSubject: use shoulder rest or not   use shoulder rest or not EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 11:24 am

kailangan po ba ng talga ang shoulder rest? use shoulder rest or not 120347
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PostSubject: Re: use shoulder rest or not   use shoulder rest or not EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 11:51 am

Kung ayaw niyo po wag na magshoulder rest use shoulder rest or not 943811 Kasi this will take a very long debate.
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PostSubject: Re: use shoulder rest or not   use shoulder rest or not EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 1:32 pm

depende lang po yun sa preference nyo kung magshoulder rest or not.
kung san ka mas comfortable magplay w/ or w/o shoulder rest, oks lang. hehe...
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tnx.. kasi parang mas pogi ang violinist kapag may shouler rest u know parang pro.. hahahah.. go na lang ako sa yes.. tnx use shoulder rest or not 331954
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PostSubject: Re: use shoulder rest or not   use shoulder rest or not EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 5:34 pm

depende sa preference.. ako may shoulder rest kahit hindi pro.. kasi mas komportable ako mag play at mas nagagrasp ko sya kapag meron.. yung iba naman mas sanay na walang shoulder rest. =)
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PostSubject: Re: use shoulder rest or not   use shoulder rest or not EmptySat Jul 17, 2010 1:06 pm

lol!!! hahahaha nakakatawa naman ung mas pogi at pro na! hahaha amp ako ok sakin kung meron man o wala. tama si admin mahaba habang patatalunan ang tatahakin nitong topic nato lol use shoulder rest or not 651389
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PostSubject: Re: use shoulder rest or not   use shoulder rest or not EmptyWed Aug 11, 2010 4:47 am

mas lumalabas ang sound at buo ang sound ng violin mo kapag walang shoulder rest...

Depende din kung medyo mahaba ang neck mo, medyo need mo ng shoulder rest

mas ok kung maglagay ka ng foam underneath nlng
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PostSubject: Re: use shoulder rest or not   use shoulder rest or not EmptyMon Sep 27, 2010 7:04 pm

depende yun...ako kelangan ko talaga ng shoulder rest kase wala akong talent para ipitin ng leeg yung violin...at mas comfortable pag merong ganun.
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PostSubject: Re: use shoulder rest or not   use shoulder rest or not EmptyMon Sep 27, 2010 10:02 pm

Shoulder rest or not?

there are so many reason Why a person who plays violin do not or need to use a violin shoulder rest

first the Reason why a person need to use a Shoulder Rest
1. for easy playing
2.to correct the proper violin hold and posture
3. most of all if a person is low shouldered, long necked and the violin always slips the handler's
shoulder

the not users
1. high shouldered
2. has the ability to held the violin between the chin and the collar bone resting to the shoulder
3. most of all looks like a professional!

that's all!
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PostSubject: Re: use shoulder rest or not   use shoulder rest or not EmptyMon Sep 27, 2010 11:19 pm

ako kailangan ko ng shoulder rest kasi may control ang violin ko pag may shoulder rest.
wala naman tama o mali dito. nasa preference lang ng player.
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PostSubject: Re: use shoulder rest or not   use shoulder rest or not EmptyThu Sep 30, 2010 9:31 am

@jurusu
pareho tayo, ako kasi nagsslide ang violin pauna pag walang shoulder rest so kelangan ko tlga
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PostSubject: Re: use shoulder rest or not   use shoulder rest or not EmptyThu Sep 30, 2010 9:33 am

im wondering, pano kaya kung hindi naimbento ang shoulder rest?
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PostSubject: Re: use shoulder rest or not   use shoulder rest or not EmptyThu Sep 30, 2010 11:06 am

hahah! RDGyap pareah po tayong nagiislide ang violin pag walang Shoulder rest at
Katulad ni Jurusu Nahihirapan akong magcontrol hahah!

Kaya need ko ng Shoulder Rest kasi Malaki ang Gap ng Chin ko sa Collar bone at
Low Shouldered talaga ako so need ko ung Shoulder Rest use shoulder rest or not 120347
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PostSubject: Re: use shoulder rest or not   use shoulder rest or not EmptyFri Oct 01, 2010 3:49 pm

XD oonga, buti na imbento ang shoulder rest!
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PostSubject: Re: use shoulder rest or not   use shoulder rest or not EmptySun Oct 10, 2010 9:16 pm

kung walang shoulder rest walang violin......ano kya kung walang chin rest shoulder rest lng.........?XD
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PostSubject: Re: use shoulder rest or not   use shoulder rest or not EmptyMon Oct 11, 2010 10:45 am

^bakit kung walang shoulder rest walang violin? haha, pano po mangyayari yun, dati naman wala talagang shoulder rest ang violinists, pero me violin naman, hahaha
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PostSubject: Re: use shoulder rest or not   use shoulder rest or not EmptyMon Oct 11, 2010 11:07 am

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dati kasi ilang patung patung na layers ang mga damit .... as in under garments... undershirt, vest, waist coat ..... at makakapal yun... Lalo na noong Baroque ... tadtad pa ng ribbons ang costumes ng mga musicians at Pang araw araw pa ito ... ^_^

The King's Cabal - Musicians of the English Court c. 1660s - 1670s
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PostSubject: Re: use shoulder rest or not   use shoulder rest or not EmptyMon Oct 11, 2010 2:42 pm

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yung statement ni kidlat ang pinagtakahan ko...
kidlat wrote:
kung walang shoulder rest walang violin......ano kya kung walang chin rest shoulder rest lng.........?XD
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kaya pala nuon di na kelangan ng shoulder rest.. ang kapal ng damit, XD
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nyek di ba parang baliktad un ???? alin ba nauna ? para mawala ang isa ? ... hehe ...di ba nauna ang violin ??? hehe use shoulder rest or not M161
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at eto ka pa ... naka Skirt ang mga Lalaki nung time ni Louis XIV 1650s - 1680s .... ahahaha use shoulder rest or not M131

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PostSubject: Re: use shoulder rest or not   use shoulder rest or not EmptyMon Oct 11, 2010 6:41 pm

^hahah, grabe namang kapal, nakadress pati mga lalaki hahah!
baka dahil mas malamig noon, gawa ng "little ice age"(which is theoretically one of the reasons why strads are the best sounding violins-cooler climate=denser woods) kaya kelangan nilang makapal ang damit.. :)
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perhaps ... hehe....

anyway another trivia is mas malaki at mas makapal ang takong "talons" ng shoes for men vs. shoes for women

climate change... hehehe.... noon dito sa subdivision namin malamig parang Baguio....as in may mist every evening and every morning kasi - 1. very few houses 2. lots and lots of big trees... .... parang laging pasko sa lamig ... ^_^

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PostSubject: Re: use shoulder rest or not   use shoulder rest or not EmptyMon Oct 11, 2010 6:58 pm

@rdg

short skirt for men, syempre LONG skirt (exclusive) for women. May painting/drawing si Louis XIV na naka "jupe" bandang 1666... the year Jean-Féry Rebel was born. :)

out of fashion na yang ganyang Costume nung time na nagcocompose na si Vivaldi at Handel ... ahahaha.... "high baroque" aka late baroque na kasi sila ... tight fitting na (laos na ang loose) ^_^
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@brq
ganun, parang dito sa lipa, nung lumipat kami sobrang lamig, laging doble kumot ako at nakamedyas pa pag natutulog, ngayon hindi na masyado malamig. pero compared to other places na lower elevation(like cavite, kahit gabi minsan ang init), mas malamig padin lipa..

OT na tayo ron, hehe

umm, napansin ko dun sa lumang violin, necessity para sakin ang shoulder rest kasi nag sslide pakanan yung violin pag wala, pero dun sa yita violin, kahit walang shoulder rest, OK lang.. pero mas OK padin pag meron.. hehe
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PostSubject: Re: use shoulder rest or not   use shoulder rest or not EmptyMon Oct 11, 2010 9:06 pm

ako ok lang kung meron o wala. pero mas nadadalian ako pag may shoulder rest. mas madali magshift directly from 1st to 5th position above use shoulder rest or not 35449
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@rdg

nope, i don't consider costumes and the climate "OT" ... related sila sa shoulder rest remember ???? hehe
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hahaha panu? use shoulder rest or not 19586
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ehehehe! sabagay, dun nga pala nag ugat yung usapang thick garments and little ice age...................

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ganun nadin sakin, pwede na kahit meron or wala SR, mas ok lang pag meron.. :) kaso ako hindi pa nakaka5th position, 1st palang, XD
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PostSubject: Re: use shoulder rest or not   use shoulder rest or not EmptyMon Jan 17, 2011 4:42 am

meron ako nbasa to know if u need a shoulder rest or not..

gawin mo un proper hold ng violin, kpg secure na chin mo sa shoulder rest,, uhm dahan dahan mo i layo ang left hand mo sa neck.. BUT MAKE SURE NA WAG SORBRANG LAYO NA KAMAY MO basta wag lang msbe na nghahang ang violin mo at naiipit mo between sa chin at shoulder mo ang violin,.

KUNG kya mo imaintain un form without any fatigue or pain ok lng kht wala shoulder rest

pero KUNG nahihirapan ka imaintain na straight un violin mo tska mo need mg shoulder rest.

PS nbasa ko lng po yan ndi ko pa actually naeexperience na meh shoulder rest but im planning to buy one.. kse nhihirapan ako imaintain un form ng violin kpg free hand ko xa iniipit between my chin at shoulder
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Para sa akin, use a shoulder rest. Nahihirapan ako kapag walang shoulder rest. Di ko ma-balance si Apollo at masakit sa balikat.
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