How do you see your violin playing 10 years from now? Pwedeng ishare lahat ng balak mo basta about sa violin, tutugtog ba sa concerto, orchestra member ka ba, magbubusiness ka ba ng violin etc.

@rdg

firstly, hoy !!! tatawagin prin kitang rdg ha ... mas madali eh ....maikli kasi ... hahahahaha

ayun ... actually ung goals ko nung 2004 nakamtan ko na ngayong 2010

My goals were.... Before i turn 28 kailangan ko na

1.) magkaroon ng Baroque Bow (2009)
2.) magkaroon ng Baroque Violin (march 2010)
3.) makatugtog ng Chin-Off (around april ako natutu...and still learning)

....

Now, 10 years for me is TOO Long ... i have goals around 5 years or less... my goals now are

1.) to be able to play (not necessarily a member by profession) with and in a Baroque Orchestra from either Europe or US (i prefer Europe) or even Asia (Korea / Japan). But the Japanese and Korean Baroque Orchestras are "less adventurous" when it comes to playing lesser known pieces and obscure composers.

2.) And to be able to enroll in an Early Music Course preferably in Europe. Ok na sakin yung short term courses ng Orpheon Foundation. Ang mahal kasi sa Abroad. Unless may magiisponsor sa akin ...

@brq
hahaha! o sige, rdg na kung rdg!

wow, galing naman.. impressed ako sa current goals mo, :) wala kasi pa sa isip ko yang studying or playing abroad pero syempre gusto ko din.
ay oo nga, puro western ang mga natugtog ng baroque music sa youtube..
hanap ka ng sponsor, you communicate well naman, :) si Coke ba san nag-aral?

@rdg

sa Juilliard nagaral si Coke... surprisingly behind ang Juilliard sa West Coast ng US at sa Europe... when it comes to Early Music. 2009 lang sila nagkaroon ng Early Music Program... si Miss Monica Huggett ang director. ^_^

a long time ago, my goal was to play "winter". :D

then, one year into my lessons, i realized that due to intervening factors, i might never get there.

so i adjusted my goal: instead of winter, i said i would be happy if i got to play the 3rd movement of Vivaldi's Concerto in A Minor (in Suzuki Book 4). whatever happens past that point, whether i decide to continue or not, basta masaya na ako to get to that level at all.

and then suddenly, intervening factors did intervene

i had to stop my lessons halfway into the sem and haul myself halfway across the globe. i brought my violin with me, thinking i would be able to practice more, but alas, that was not to be. i've only been able to take my violin out of the case a few times since i got here. and during those few times, it was only to tune, and maybe to play a couple of easy pieces. haven't been able to really do my practice routine, not even once.



so, right now, i don't even know if i can get to my drastically adjusted goal, even though i was already starting book 4 when i left.

or maybe, i'll adjust my goal again. maybe i'll revert to the original goal, albeit with a slight modification:

instead of playing "winter," i guess my goal for now will just be "to play during winter." that one, i think i can accomplish.

Can I answer this question even if my instrument is the piano?

I am seriously considering going back to school and to pursue a music degree. Due to some events earlier this year, I can now take major steps toward that goal since nothing is holding me back no. I see myself involved in the promotion and publicity of music events/concerts as well years from now.

My Goal is to simply Go with the flow.. Because in this manner, there is no specific target.. I just want to have my violin (and guitar) with me and play whenever i feel like playing. I learned a lot this way before and i think I'm gonna learn some more in my own pace.

Ganito ako nung nag start ako sa guitar. I did not take formal lessons but I eventually learned to play with it along the way. I don't let time give me the pressure to attain my goal; instead, I used time to get me where I am and where i will be in the future (regarding my violin playing). I did not take music related course in college. I took engineering to satisfy the technical part of my persona. Music on the other hand is another part of me and will always be..

So as long as I discover a good music worth playing, I will practice it and play it for my own pleasure. Walang pressure pressure.. hehehehe

My goal is to play violin on a gondola in Venice and the streets of Prague. It's more of a wish since it involves traveling. And I am not joking.

I don't have any long term goals yet. I am not a good planner, and I prefer spontaneity. Similar kay Jeje, go with the flow. No pressure. That takes away the beauty of art, literature, and music.

@angus
that is one romantic wish / goal ... ^_^

i agree ... "art is never rushed" ... kaso i don't have the privilege and luxury of time (a thing our young PV members are blessed with and take for granted) , at gustu ko hora-horada ... kaso in reality that cannot be... so i set a time frame ... anything can happen within that time frame ... i'm just "giving the opportunity 'an opportunity' to come to me" ... ahahahahaha...

i think that's true... The Power of Suggestion ...if you call something to you, and think of nothing else but that thing, it does come to you one way or another... i've never read the book "The Secret" but i think that's the principle it talks about....something i have been doing and invite all to do ...

prayers for the religious/Godly, thoughts for the "laïque"....

ininvite ako ng ate ko umatend sa seminar ng book na to ... kaso it seemed part of a networking (pyramiding) scheme so hindi ako naglabas ng pera... hehehe ... ayun, hindi ko nabasa ... o_O


@louanne
ahahaha... mukhang makakamtan mo na ang goal mo !!!! November na !!!


@all
disclaimer lang po ... clarificatory pahabol post (baka lang pow kasi isipin ng iba satin na masyado aq ambisyosow... ahaha) ... by my mentioning "not necessarily a member by profession" i mean i don't have any plans of becoming a professional player ... just a chance / an invitation from them baroque orchestras to play ... a "guest" ... fulfilled na ako kapag nangyari yun ...

Wow. This is a nice question. :)

Siguro a major goal that I want to attain is to be a professional orchestra member. :) Prior to that, bago matapos ang 10-year goal bracket, I should be able to study abroad. I also like to teach sa mga universities na may conservatory. Teaching talaga ang goal ko pero I still want to play as an orchestra member. If will ni God na maging mainstream violinist ako, well ayos lang din. I also want to travel as a professor/violinist. haha. :) I also want to collaborate with international artists like Paul Dateh (haha... hindi dahil sa crush ko sya), Rachel Barton-Pine, etc. Mataas na pangarap pero kakayanin. Siguro yan ang long-term goal ko for my career. I think may family na rin ako after 10 years kaya I think before 10 years ang goal ko na ito. :)

ang ganda ng question ah,, napaka self reflecting =)) haha!!!

as for me,,, i have a lot of other things to pursue kasi -_-,,, prang medyo nagsside ako sa go with the flow regime,,, pero somehow along the way,, gusto ko magkadegree in music (not even sure kng violin),,, but whatever happens anyway,,, ang pinakagoal ko ay makatugtog ng mga pieces na pangarap ko tlaga,,, winter mov 1-3 ni vivaldi, tas summer 1-3 den, tas ung solo sa fiddler on the roof, tska ung tchaikovsky violin concerto, 3rd movement (kung bakit ako bumalik sa violin in the first place),,, so un, prang perks n lng ung iba like degree, orchestra and stuff,,, iba kasi ung feeling ng success ng natutugtog mo yon kasi it's a testament of your personality, dahil kasama na dun ung productivity mo sa practice, time management, at ung burning passion ;)

Wow! ang sarap basahin ng mga replies..

i thought of this thread because i think i have a case of unclear goals(sa violin). siguro ang goal ko pa lang -to be able to play paganini caprice 24.(huwwaaat?? XD). hindi clear yung long term goal na yon kasi kelangan ng short term goals on how to get there. i'm also not a good planner.. :) malaking tulong talaga ang mga nabasa ko dito..

@brq
hindi naman ambisyoso ah, :D onga, ako nga nanghihinayang sa oras na sinasayang ng mga kabataan.

@angus & jeje
ganyan din ata ako sa ngayon, no pressure (walang teacher kasi. XD) ako kasi kung ano mapakinggan, pagaralan.. hehehe, but i want to set short term goals. di pa lang malinaw.. tapos titingnan ko kung hanggang saan ba ako..

@liza
very nice! hindi na malayo sa inyo yang goal mo, :)

@all
thanks, keep 'em coming! :D

Absintheus wrote:

iba kasi ung feeling ng success ng natutugtog mo yon kasi it's a testament of your personality, dahil kasama na dun ung productivity mo sa practice, time management, at ung burning passion ;)

tama! :)

Ito naman yung mga long-term goals ko for the cello.

1) Play the Dvorak, Elgar, and Haydn concertos well. Isama na rin siguro si Shoshtokovich.
2) Play all 6 cello suites by Bach very well.

Heehee.

Matanda na akong nagsimula kaya kailangan ko ng clear cut goals para ma-monitor ko yung progress ko. There are certain pieces I want to be able to play for every year of lessons. Meron akong mga sinabihan ng mga goals ko at nag-shoot papuntang langit ang kilay nila. Haha! Masyado na daw late akong nagsimula. So ayon, kebs lang. Personal goals naman yan e. I think goals should innately be high.

Always try shooting for the stars.

@Ron
Romantic ba? Thanks! Some people find it ridiculous. Manglilimos na lang daw ako, ang gastos ko pa raw. In the first place hindi naman ako manglilimos, parang yun ang version ko ng isang performance sa CCP. Free for all! I sometimes see myself playing sa mga MRT stations. Pero nakakatuwa lang siguro kung tapunan ako ng pera after playing. Appreciation ba ng mga passers-by, hindi pity or something to that effect.

Pero kung sabagay, malaking factor talaga ang time. Mid-twenties na rin ako, at hindi pa nga stable ang career. At wala pa akong passport, so paano ako pupunta ng Europe? Hopefully ideploy ako ng company namin dun, haha.

@Tr Liza
At talagang nakaconsider na ang family. Naku, kailangan ngang shorter pa sa 10 years kasi kapag may family malamang mag-shift ang mga plans at goals.

@Louie
So pati yung mga 2nd movements tutugtugin mo na? I love the Four Seasons, gusto ko rin ang Autumn. Spring ayos lang. Ambitious nga ako, dinownload ko yung mga sheets for solo, violin 1 and 2, viola, at cello, haha.

@Roland
I strongly, strongly suggest na kumuha ka na ng teacher. Kahit malayo. Ako I lose 4 hours sa travel para lang mapuntahan ang teacher ko. Mas monitored kasi ang progress at may nakakakita ng mga mali mo na akala mo ay tama. Sakripisyo talaga.

@Beenie
"I think goals should innately be high." - I approve!

@angus
well ayos lang din kasi malamang magiging family of musicians kami. :) hehe... kaya siguro kahit may family ako, priority pa rin namin ang music. :D saka kaya yan before 10 years may orchestra na akong kasali. kasi after 4 years tapos na ako magaral, then 1 year MA in Music Ed., then another 2 years for study abroad/violin playing/travel, and the rest is etc.. :D

@Tr Liza
Eek, 1 year lang ang MA in Music Ed? Hopefully musician din ang future husband mo para hindi masyado mahirap, kasi kung wala siyang hilig sa music, patay tayo diyan.

@angus: hahahahaha meron na kea yan!! wahahahahaha dba mam???

@ angus, may pianist na si liza. malamang family of musicians na sila 10 years from now. hehe...


As for me, I just want to play really really good for my family and friends.
Yung tipong kaya ko tumambay sa labas ng bahay namin or sa kahit sa anong lugar na may hawak akong violin at magplay lang anytime i want.

tipong orchestra type of playing or tipong yung violinist ni yanni type of music pero playing in the streets.
for people to appreciate. haha...

serve the people!

i would like to answer this question...
sa violin?? gusto ko maging concertmaster ng isang orchestra although i am not from an orchestra..( walang orchestra sa Zambo.)

pero pagdating sa aking pagiging musician, gusto ko maging conductor ng isang orchestra at gusto ko ako ang makabuo ng first orchestra sa amin... i'll be taking up BM after my nursing course... hehehe

li0nh3a12t wrote:

@ angus, may pianist na si liza. malamang family of musicians na sila 10 years from now. hehe...


As for me, I just want to play really really good for my family and friends.
Yung tipong kaya ko tumambay sa labas ng bahay namin or sa kahit sa anong lugar na may hawak akong violin at magplay lang anytime i want.

tipong orchestra type of playing or tipong yung violinist ni yanni type of music pero playing in the streets.
for people to appreciate. haha...

serve the people!

Inumpisahan nyo na nga yan sa mga tripings nyo sa San Lazaro eh.. Tumugtog ba naman ng canon ang mga PV sa mataong lugar.. hehehe FIrst step na yun.. Next time solo mo nalang..

Ako naman may kasama ako tumutugtog ng violin sa harap ng baguio cathedral ng gabi habang kumakain ng 7-11 siopao.. hehehe

haha... natawa naman ako sa comment nyo kay angus. :) hehe...

@angus
yupp. 1 year ang target ko para matapos ang MA ng Music Ed sa PNU. Mabilis lang naman yun pag masipag ako. hehe. :) sabi naman sa akin sa pnu, kaya ng 1 year pa tuloy tuloy tapos lahat ng subjects including thesis magawa ko. Balak ko nga kumuha ng MA units pag graduating na ako para mas mabilis. :D kakayanin ko naman yun kasi puro education lang naman, walang instrument unlike pag nag MA ako sa conservatory.

@carl
so balak mo maging tambay in the future? hehe... :) naka white collar job ka na nga eh. hehe.. joke lang. samahan kita sa pagtambay mo

@Ito
miss ka na namin ni jm. haha. :D di rin ako pwede today. sakit ng tyan ko. arg.

kahit pharmacy kinuha ko ngayon, at sempre future pharmacist, ksabay ko paring kinukuha ang pag aaral ng violin, kahit self study lang, pero mag lelesons na ako pag vacation (khit may internship ang pharmacy pag vacation hahaha) try ko ding kumuha uli ng music course isasabay ko sa doctor of pharmacy kung sakaling palaring makakuha ng doctor pof pharmacy, pangarap kong maging orchestra member, maging concert master, at maging soloist ofcourse, pero as of now mejo hinay hinay, kase mejo crucial ang med.student, kaya habang nag aaral, innurture ko pa ang skills ko so that pag dating nung time na paaralin ko na sarili ko, mas madali at mas maeenjoy ko ang pag venture ko sa much advance and difficult level, hahaha, gusto ko ring mkasali sa mga national contest hahaha Godbless us all, lahat ng yun sempre, lahat ng maabot natin sa buhay, dedicated din para sa Kanya diba haha

@mam elle: haha d rin po ako pede kanina eh, short notice na training sa rondalla. kainis nadaganan tuloy ako ng gawain. arggh sana maimpeach ako mula sa posisyon hahaha

ay mam pinapa-arrange pala sakin ng teacher ko ung All I Ask of You, for 2 violins and rondalla. hahaha naubusan ako ng dugo dto hohoho

I guess I'd like to be part of an orchestra.

I also have a goal of mastering the classics. You know, the masterpieces of Mozart and the rest of the classical barkadahan.

May nadiscover akong angle ng wrist and finger for better violin playing, kaso nga lang nakasanayan ko na yung dati.. I guess, i will include correcting my fingering style muna in my goal.. medyo gets ko na yung Toss The Feathers pero yung angle ng kamay ko ang nakita kong problema.. hehehe hirap pa rin ako sa mga mabibilis.. tumitigas right hand ko.. hehehe
as usual, wala akong time target.. nyahahaha

At talagang idinisclose sa akin ang relationship status ni T. Liza, haha. At least hindi siya "it's complicated," haha.

li0nh3a12t wrote:

@ angus, may pianist na si liza. malamang family of musicians na sila 10 years from now. hehe...

para pala kami ni mela, ako yung violinist, si mela naman keyboardist/pianist..
magaling lang sina mam liza at sir jm! wahaha

at prang dinamay mo sa lait si ate mela haha!!

^ haha... I know what you're thinking Louie. hahaha... :))

makapagexam sa ABRSM at makapasa hehe!

Absintheus wrote:

at prang dinamay mo sa lait si ate mela haha!!

bakit??? waaah! ang slow ko

1996 ako nang nag first try, hinde ganoon ka successful, pero nagpilit uli nang napanood ko ung "Red Violin" [1998] nakakuha na kasi ng ideas kung paano laruin at gamitin.

Then ngayon ulit after 12 years, sa tingin ko lang, magigiging bahagi talaga ng buhay ko itong violin.

Not aiming to be a pro, just to reach a certain level where I can play decent pieces like "Asturias" on my violin. would be good enough for me.

As Of now.. hmm wala pa akong Long Term Goal eh..
Kasi di pa talaga ako ganung kagaling magviolin
Pero Gusto ko talaga ay ang makapagtugtog ng maganda
matugtog ang mga Paorito kong kanta, mapa gigo
sa Simbahan ko.. Ayos lang sa akin ang di maging sikat
basta ang alam ko sa sarili ko masaya ako sa ginagawa ko
gusto ko rin ung maibahagi ang aking nalalaman sa ibang tao
at magkaroon ng super daming friends .. ahaha!
wa epek ang facebook.. Lols

angsaya namn nitong Thread na ito parang Diary..
natatawang luha ako ahaha!

Since I don't know anything like a clean slate, the first thing is to actually enroll in a violin lesson.

@jakey

could u please say hello to Peter Rabbit for me ??? ^_^

@baroqueviolin

Sure. I'll ask uncle Energizer Bunny where he is! :D

Sguro magaling na musician na ako nun :), may sariling shop ng mga instruments :) tumutugtog sa mga sikat na hotel dito sa Pilipinas :) nakarating na ng ITALY nun at nakapagperform :) naks!

LONG TERM GOAL: makapagperform sa mga HOTELS kasama si FERDZ (FERNANDO violin 3/4)

My long term goals
Playingwise: to be able to perform solo violin pieces and improve my playing and note reading...

Collectingwise: to be able to get at least three to five good violins for different tonal variations... Like, a Strad style violin will sound different from a Guarnerius style violin, etc...

ako, gusto ko lang talaga tumugtog ng tumugtog para sa ikagagalak ng aking sarili pati na rin ng iba. 'di ko pa kasi alam kung anong larangan ba ang ipu-pursue ko after ko grumaduate ng college. pero kung 'di man ako kumuha ng music course eh sigurado naman ako na hindi mawawala sa buhay ko ang pagtugtog ng violin.

*ten years from now... may isang batang babae na tumutugtog ng Liber Tango gamit ang kanyang baroque cello habang pinapanuod ng kanyang ama *whimper*

@Gelo
Aw. I like Liber Tango rin, thanks to Beethoven Virus, haha.

Okay, I have another long term goal aside from that Venice and Prague thing. Gusto ko yatang kumuha ng short term course para at least may certificate ako. Like yung sa Extension Program ng UP. Or UST.

@angus25: astig yun eh 'no? great tv series *ismayl*. btw, kaya mo tugtugin yun (Beethoven Virus)?

@angus
i remember one time during a trip to cavite, i met a certain paolo araneta who is a violin teacher at yamaha and la salle green hills(if i remember it correctly). sabi nya dapat nga daw mag-extension program muna. at dun daw malalaman na hindi madali ang music/violin (nakakatakot naman etong statement na to XD).

kaso ang mahal, 4k sa UP ata nung time nya tapos 4 saturdays lang. (pakicorrect naman po kung me maling info, matagal na yun eh..)

Ano iyung "extension program?" ano ang ginagawa doon?

@Gelo
Hahaha, natawa raw ako. I can't play that yet. May music sheet ka ba nun? Gusto ko rin yung Rashful DuRuMi. I want to learn that. Beginner din ako, haha, wala pa akong one year.

@Roland and Tal
Nag-inquire ako sa UP nung November. Heto yung fees for 2nd Semester 2010-2011:

Individual, 14 half hour lessons, once a week for 14 weeks - P5,490.00
Individual, 14 one hour lessons, once a week for 14 weeks - P10,810.00
Cluster (4 students), 14 one hour lessons, once a week for 14 weeks - 5,490.00
Ensemble (5-6 students), 14 one hour lessons, once a week for 14 weeks - P4,650.00

Course offerings: piano, harp, jazz piano, jazz improvisation (wind instruments), voice, music composition 1, winds and percussion, strings (dito ang violin), rondalla instruments, and Asian instruments.

So yes, I think if playing professionally is one of your long term goals, pwede na siguro yung mga short term courses for a start. BTW, send my regards to Mela.

@ angus25: ah so parang crash course siya, baka iyan na ang kailangan ko, kelan kaya ang susunod na enrollment[mayo?] pakiramdam ko masyadong gentle ung instructor ko, sa ngayon hinde ako nakakaramdam ng hirap kagaya ng unang lesson[kaunting adjustment pa kasi]

Pakiramdam ko, kulang ang 1 hr per lesson sa akin, naka develop na ako ng "focus" dati noong nag de dentistry pa ako, may lecture kami na from 8am-12pm[may 2 na 15mins break] MWF iyun. Hays! sino kaya ang puwede ko makuha na teacher na ganoon sa violin? mukha na nagmamadali ako, pero any moment puede na ako magka pamilya at mawawalan na ako ng sapat na oras para mag aral ng violin, kaya I am grabbing every opportunity... sobrang iksi ang buhay natin at napakarami nating gustong gawin.

nag extension prograjm ako nung summer sa up bago ako makapaginquire sa Keystrings. ok naman dun, pero medyo naasar lang ako sa teacher ko dun. no offence po. (baka saling mabasa nya at makilala ako.) pero magaling naman sya. kung may pera lang ako dun ko na pinalesson nung pinsan ko. T.T

@ luigi-kun: Strenuous ba ang activity dun? mahirap ba? or parang regular class lang?

*naalala ko tuloy yung mga first violin lessons ko *ismayl*. ang ganda pa ng teacher ko, haha, kaya 'di ako masyado nakakapagconcentrate kapag tinuturuan n'ya ako. pero katulad nung mga nauna kong violin teachers strikta din s'ya :)

@angus25: meron akong music sheet nun :)

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