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PostSubject: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:59 am

He he he sorry PV community, let's keep things in order.

Thank you li0nh3a12t puwede na burahin ung post, may strike 1 na tuloy ako sa PV moderators ^^;

Anyway ito ung post ko doon sa Showroom thread:

TalBlaiser wrote:
He he he, naisip ko lang bigla. bakit nga ba natin binibigyan ng pangalan ang ating instrumento?

My reason, nagbibigay lang ako ng pangalan sa aking instrumento na nagpadama ng kakaibang experience sa akin. sa tatlo na violin ko, dalawa lang ang may pangalan si Ivy & Yvette, ung hofner ko wala dahil hinde ako nagviviolin nung dumating siya. Pero ung dalawa, talagang luhuran na ligawan ang nangyari para marinig ang matamis na "Oo" nila, binasted ako ni Ivy, si Yvette naman ay try & work harder pero may pag-asa na sasagutin niya ako... kumbaga trinato ko silang tao ^^;

How about you? bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:02 am

Kasi yun ang nakikita ko sa kanya... hindi pang karaniwan eh .... kaya "La Sprezzatura" (歪 美 - crooked beauty) ... taliwas sa "gandang tanggap" ...

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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:15 am

@Tal Blaiser

Kung titignan mo ang Format ng PV violin showroom sa >>Unang pahina<< nakalagay dun ang name ng violin at kung pano at san ito nagmula... click the link and you will see more violin names of other members violin..
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:38 am

@Tal

hehe... usually hindi naman ganun ka strict dito fuera lang dun sa thread na yun ... talagang nililinis ng mods yun kasi nga naman matatabunan ang mga violin pics... ^_^
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:06 am

@Ron

Okey lang naman.. hehehe yun nga lang kasi medyo redundant na yung ibang topic..

Anyway pwede rin nating gawing reference yung unang pages ng violin showroom for the nomenclauture..
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:15 am

Walang panaln yung mga violins ko. Hindi ko alam kung bakit, but kung may pangalan sila nafefeel ko that they're not part of "my being". And they could be a he or a she...in other words: hermaphrodite... LOL

Excited ako today...magiging 3 na yung violin family ko. Ang tagal ng 5pm!

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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:55 am

Para sa akin Kaya ang Tao Binibigyan nila ng Name ang Isang bagay tulad ng Musical Instrument, Toys like Dolls or Action figure kasi...
Like any other Psychologist and philosophers think or analized/observed
A person Also Gives a little part of himself to a Thing that he/she owns
the most thing is Given a part of is a doll by a girl co'z
It can represent herself or for us the Musical Instrument Represents us

Like for me I named my Violin Otegami co'z I got it After one Week
Otegami in Japanese means Letter or Writings..( tama b ako dito sa translation? hahah!)
it sort of running in my mind like an imagination and I am Happy with his name
now i have given him a gender ahah!
And by that I have given Otegami a part of my Imagination, mind or Who I am..

So in Short We name things we own co'z they may Represent ourselves or personalities
our Experiences, Wether if it is in negative way or in positive way...

Even by Cleaning The Violin or Playing it, We gave a part of Ourselves in them..
Our instrument is like our personalities, a part of our likeness :D

hala naiapply ko ang natutunan ko sa psychology at Philosophy classes ko ahaha! >_<
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:43 am

dahil para sakin, buhay ang mga instruments, mas mahaba pa nga usually buhay nila kesa satin eh, so kung buhay sila, kelangan nila ng name as their right. =D


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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:47 am

Haha alam ko n ung kaunting Personality ni Luigi by that ahaha!
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:42 am

The naming of your instrument is a sign of affection for it, also a sign of respect for it.

Like a Patek Philippe or any fine watch, our instruments are not "ours" per se. I am just the custodian of my guitars and violins, and when I go, they will live on and be part of the next custodian's life.

Now as to what we name these instruments, this is a matter of taste. I named one of my Gibson guitars INGRID, for example, because patay na patay ako kay Ingrid Bergman =)

I named my Strad copy SOPHIE, because of Anne Sophie Mutter, another [sigh] lady whom I really admire [okay, patay na patay din hehe]... I'm now looking for another violin so I can christen it "ANNE" =)

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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:50 pm

@kanji: ala anu nman un?
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:58 pm

@cube.root & luigi

ahaha.... with regard to perpetuity, owning (or in this case being owned), and affection .... related tong article na to >>> http://www.pinoyviolinist.com/tips-and-tricksqa-f21/strings-magazine-stringsweek-tips-t544.htm
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:09 pm

“It’s not your violin. It was not created for you,” Grubaugh says. “You’re just the caretaker ’til the next guy comes along. In fact, you probably have it because some other guy took care of it. In this throw-away society, this is something made to last.”

Exactly what I wanted to say...
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:34 pm

kasi mahal ko sya. hihi! at medyo may moment ang mga panahon na nakuha ko si mimi.. =)
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Wed Dec 01, 2010 7:52 pm

cube.root.sam wrote:
“It’s not your violin. It was not created for you,” Grubaugh says. “You’re just the caretaker ’til the next guy comes along. In fact, you probably have it because some other guy took care of it. In this throw-away society, this is something made to last.”

Exactly what I wanted to say...

I agree that He has a point but a side of my mind says Otherwise...
I can say I am just a caretaker to my Violin and
I am the owner of my Violin
but I cannot agree to the phrase that it was not created for you
Co'z Why pick the perfect violin for you if it is not Destined to be created for you?
can he Say that the Violin chooses his owner or the Person Chooses the
right Violin for himself?
For me The Person Chooses the Right Violin not the Violin Chooses the owner...

and in religion belief anything in this world is not yours because
all things in this World Belongs to God and he only lend them to us for us to use it.

So I can Say it I own the Violin but God is also the Owner of it..

ahaha! Anu ba yan Philosophy na namn ahah

@ Luigi di ko pa pwedeng isiwalat ang analysis ko ahaha!
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:20 pm

Ang una kong naisip na sagot: Bakit, bawal ba?

LOL. But that is beside the point. Nasabi na rin naman lahat ng sasabihin ko sana. Makapagcomment lang, hehe.
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:23 pm

I agree with Mr. Grubaugh's point, but his choice of words are irritating, kaya tuloy parang nababawasan yung impact. He could have been a little more eloquent.
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:25 pm

diba nu Angus May point Siya kaso May Mali rin
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:28 pm

Meron palangan ang violin ko kasi

unang-una iyon ay aking kagustuhan.

pangalawa para magkaroon sya ng kaibahan sa iba.
i mean diba may brand sila at kadalasan marami silang magkakapareho. kaya may pangalan na sya.

pangatlo kasi tinuturing ko ciang baby. ung inaalagaan, binibigyan ng pansin
tsaka kinakausap ko si Vlad. Alangan naman na kinakausap ko si Vlad wala ciang name. hahahaha..



Oh Walang kokontra. Para sakin lamang yan
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:55 pm

@Kanji
Yep, something sounds wrong. Ang awkward kasi ng diction niya. At kung makapanlait ako para naman akong institution, haha.
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:59 pm

@ Angus Basta ako I apply Philosophy ahah! Anyone Says there is no Right or Wrong in Philo.
ahaha!
MakaComment nga nmn ahaha! oops OT na XD
@ Shake Talagang walang kokontra ahaha! Ikaw yan eh ahehe!
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:32 pm

bakit may pangalan?

Kasi yung mga unang gumagawa ng violin may pangalan sila sa mga violin nila. Ika nga nila, no two violins are exactly alike. Parang tao rin. May something na unique sa bawat violin. So when we name our instruments, we give life to our instruments. May identity yung violin. Parang one na ang player at ang instrument. Mas madaling makaka-connect ang musician sa instrument nya, at para mas ma-interpret ng musician ang music na gusto nya iparating. :D

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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:09 pm

i agree. kahit mga laptops ko may pangalan din haha. ganun talaga pag mahal mo. iba ang treatment.
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:54 am

Hmm kung wala akong maisip na pangalan "anak na lang yung tinatawag ko sa aking mga precious na kagamitan. Sa ganyang paraan they will receive special and extra TLC. :-)
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:07 am

Tanungin nyo din si ICHIGO kung bakit magkaiba sila ng pangalan ni Tenza Zangetsu... eh bgla naman sila nagkakaroon ng zanpakuto pag shinigami form na siya eh.. hehehehe
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:02 am

ayun di ko pala nasagut ng maayos ung question ... kaya heto :

napaka selfish kasi naman pakinggan kung palaging "violin ko" ... hahaha... so para fair... affection din ... ^_^
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:27 am

@kanji -aus! hehehe


agree ako kay ma'am Elle. :)
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:33 am

@mamliza
agree! :D each violin is unique..
@jeje
wahahah! lol, nice! napasali ang bleach XD
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:17 pm

Yup! Agree with Teacher Elle aheheh!

O_o IChigo Bakit nga ba? aheheh!
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:19 pm

... kasi gaya-gaya ako. haha
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:27 pm

Ako when I gave a name to my clarinet, sobrang loner ako because I was devoting a lot of time learning it to the point na I lost my social life at the time. So binigyan ko na lang ng name yung instrument dahil siya na lang ang only friend ko at that time. Hahaha!
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:44 pm

@RAd
Winner ang story mo! :) Hehe! Nagclarinet ka din pala? Bb?

Ako din dati, sa high school band. :D 2nd Clarinet ako pag andun yung magaling na alumni, pero wag wala, i played first. Ako kasi una nakapatunog ng "ti" matapos mga dalawang buwan na ihip ng ihip na walang lumalabas na kahit anong tunog. hahaha
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:51 pm

Ahhh ganun pala kaya pala ang name ng mga violins ko ahahahah.
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:22 pm

@Water
Yes, but it's just a student model Bb clarinet. And I'm not good at it. Trust me, tonguing lang in just one note, nag-overblow pa ako so ayun, tumatalon ang nota. Yan ba yung "ti" na nasa clarino register na? Yung ginagamitan na ng register key? Hirap din ako sa pag-practice nung paglipat from chalumeau to clarino at di ko na muna ina-attempt yung mga altissimo notes. My brother even blamed my horrible clarinet playing sa pagkamatay ng pet lizard niya.

I named my clarinet "Jarek" na character ng comicbook series na Tellos. I knew the artist who created and drew the comics and encouraged me to go on and buy a clarinet nung medyo nag-plan pa lang ako bumili. Tapos, sinabi niya na kung may time siya, gusto niya sanang matuto tumugtog ng kahit na anong instrument. And then, mga a month after I finally bought my clarinet, that artist had a heart attack and he passed away. So in memory of him, I named my clarinet after one of his characters. :( It has been around three years na since.
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:04 pm

@ Kuya RAD nakakaiyak nmn po ung Story ng Clarinet nyu..

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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:18 pm

@RAd

Yung "ti" na dinedescribe ko yung nasa third line ng staff... yup ginagamitan ng register key pala tawag dun? :D Hehe. Yun daw ang pinakamahirap patunugin sa lahat ng mga notes sa clarinet e.

Pero di rin ako kagalingan... I played 1st because among the trainees, i was the first who was able to play in the high registers. Yung parts ng 1st clarinet nun mostly naglalaro up to the fourth ledger line above the staff, e ako lang nakakaabot nun at that time. At least nga ikaw may clarinet... ang gamit ko lang nun yung spare ni bandmaster. So I also haven't played since then. :(

Hehe I wouldn't know about horrible playing killing lizards, but I certainly caused my family a lot of anguish, since I practiced at 4 or 5 a.m. :D hehe. Eh sa umpisa pa naman parang sa violin din di ba, puro squeaks! hehe.

But to get back on topic (hehe), ayun the clarinet I used didn't have a name because it wasn't mine.

I guess one main reason we name our instruments is because its a mark of ownership... and second, as RAd pointed out, we spend so much time with them, getting to "know" them, and trying to get along with them that they begin to acquire a personality :D so then, it's only fitting to give them names, as we do other things that we value.

P.S. I'm sorry to hear about your friend... but who knows, maybe ngayon somewhere out there, he's fulfilled his wish and is playing a lyre with the angels :)
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:54 pm

Ang ganda ng mga story niyo about your instruments. :-)

Speaking of torture sa family. Sometimes naasar yung mom ko especially when I play scales on my violin. Maingay kasi and annoying especially when I attempt to play a drone note (yung open string together with a note para ma check kung correct yung intonation at interval).

Wala pa rin akong name para sa aking violin...
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:16 pm

@jantigercat

hehe... actually back then, i thought they were all asleep... somehow it never occurred to me that the err... squeaking/ shrieking clarinet would wake them up.hehe. i just learned about the anguish fairly recently, when my brother suddenly made squeaking noises in imitation of my early playing. hehe

when I started learning to play the violin, ayun it was the neighbor's turn to be terrorized... although in fairness, i waited for them to wake up before i started practicing, and i did everything i could to keep the volume down--rubber practice mute, wooden pegs on the bridge, and playing near the fingerboard. (the downside was, i could never shake of my habit of tentative playing because of that.)

and btw, i'm not good at names, either... my first violin i called "Nanding" kasi it was a fernando violin and i felt it was a fitting nickname---si Nanding galing Quiapo. hehe. my second violin was named Lucy by the original owner (si Admin). wala akong maisip na pamalit na name, so i just changed the spelling and made it LouC, derived from my name. hehe.

i'm sure you'll have a name for your violin in time. hehe. that is, if you want to name it at all.
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:17 pm

@Water
Oops, I get the impression that you think that I actually play the violin. Isa ako sa mga HINDI nag-violin na naligaw dito sa PV. I actually play the piano.

@Jantiger
Don't force naming your instrument. Ako mga a few months ko nabigyan ng name yung clarinet ko. As Water said, magdedevelop ng "personality" yung instrument mo and sometimes it takes time for you to figure what that is. And dun mo ma figure out yung name that seems right for your instrument.

And kailangan mabalik sa topic... may piano dito sa bahay na binili ng lola back in 1982 when I was around 4 years old. Tapos nun, lahat ng apo niya na nakatira sa compound or within walking distance (kahit yung mga 1 1/2 hours away) pinag-aral niya ng piano. Fast forward years later, ako na lang ang natira na nagpiano ng "seryoso". So walang pangalan si piano since di pumasok sa amin na bigyan siya ng name. Hahaha!

I still do have other instruments in here pero I never bothered to give them names. Ang weird naman bigyan ng name ang isang... triangle. Hahaha!
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:32 pm

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pwede mo siya pangalan si TIN-TIN o kaya kung mas pambata Ting-Ting nalang... hehehe
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:42 pm

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anu pangalan ng piano mow ??? :)))
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:57 pm

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Walang name si piano, si recorder at pati na rin yung iba't ibang various percussion na nagkalat dito. Pati na rin yung classical guitar na bali na yung neck. Siguro si Technics si organ na sira na. Si Korg naman yung isang keyboard. Tapos yung inangkin ng brother ko si Telecaster.


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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Mon Dec 06, 2010 12:33 am

maninira lang ako ng moment hahaha...
never pa ako nagbigay ng pangalan sa mga gamit ko hahaha (including my violin)
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Mon Dec 06, 2010 12:38 am

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ako naman si Sprezzy lang ang katangi tanging gamit ko na pinangalanan ko ... ahahahah...

yung iba ko gamit, pati ung dalawa kong student violins di ko pinangalanan... ^_^
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:32 am

All of my 3 violins have a name. Hugo, Alfred, and Anna Maria, respectively.

Tinuturing ko na partner ang violin ko, kaya binibigyan ko ng pangalan dahil tinitignan ko sila bilang buhay na bahagi ko. Parang anak ko ba.
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:29 pm

evilgenius15 wrote:
maninira lang ako ng moment hahaha...
never pa ako nagbigay ng pangalan sa mga gamit ko hahaha (including my violin)

Walang nasira :D

A short story:

Dito sa bulacan meroon lugar na Barihan at Pinagbakahan, sabi ng lolo ko noong panahon ng Japanese occupations yata nabuo ang pangalan nito dahil doon sa banda ng Barihan[Barilan] nag umpisa ang laban, at sa "pinagbakahan" kinatay lahat ng natirang buhay na filipino.

Whether the story is true or not. the point is something memorable had happened, in the same manner, our violin or instruments that gave us some sort of unforgettable experience, may it be a fanciful and titillating or something dark and sorrowful, it earns a name so we won't forget that experiences and who are involved in it. Even scientist, people of greater learnings gave names to their discoveries.
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:12 pm

dahil wala lng xD gus2 ko lng pangalanan mga instrument ko
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:02 pm

My laptop has a name. Why not my violin as well? :)
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:01 am

Kasi I treat my violin as a soul/entity.

Kagaya ng sinabi ko kay Yuuko-neesan. Isang name lang meron ako para sa violin ko which is "Kimat"

Tuwing nagpapalit ako ng violin, iniisip ko na yung body nya ang nagpapalit at na sosoul transfer lang siya sa bagong body.
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PostSubject: Re: Bakit may pangalan ang instrument ninyo?   Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:12 am

^that sounds very nice. :) I like your term "soul"
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