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PostSubject: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptyMon Nov 08, 2010 9:31 pm

maaari bang gumanda ang china violin pag pinagawa/pinaayos ko sa violin luthier??

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Yup!
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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptyTue Nov 09, 2010 12:21 am

Pero kung susumahin mo ang magagastos, parang papantay din sa presyo ng entry level hand crafted violin... Your choice/..
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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptyTue Nov 09, 2010 8:43 am

bakit ipapa-ayos kung wala naman sira?

Ipa-setup mo na lang para gumanda tunog =))
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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptyTue Nov 09, 2010 1:35 pm

^agree
hahaha, setup lang, di paayos/pagawa.. XD
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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptyTue Nov 09, 2010 6:36 pm

Ahmm... newbie lang po si Norje. Avoid using terms nalang baka makaoffend skanya. Pag close nalang talaga kayo dun medyo icorrect ^^
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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptyTue Nov 09, 2010 8:54 pm

@kundarmaH: awww... so nice... thankss... ok lang naman ung snasabi nla...

@all: thank you parinnnnn!!! Violin Luthier 770828
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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptyTue Nov 09, 2010 9:01 pm

@ norje Naka offend a ako?
Sige Sabihin mo! Violin Luthier 606108
ahaha! lol
Takutin daw b? ahaha!
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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptyTue Nov 09, 2010 9:17 pm

not naman... i know newbie talaga ako!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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hahahahahaha!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptyTue Nov 09, 2010 9:28 pm

@ norje dito sa Site di n ata ako Newbie since 500+ na ang Posts ko dito ahehehe

Pero sa pag viviolin Newbie parin ako at ung mga nalalaman ko ay Resulta ng

Todo Research! Research lang ng Research! Violin Luthier 886634

ahaha!

Sana mag Enjoy ka Dito at pag nagustuhan mo eh sumama ka na rin sa EB
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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptyTue Nov 09, 2010 9:35 pm

@norje
Dito kasi talaga halos lahat kami magkakakilala in person. XD Kaya nagksanayan naren kami na prang joke ung mga sagot namin. Although nkkhiya naman kasi sa ibang gusto palang matuto. Sbi nga There's no problem in correcting somebody para di na nakakahiya pag sabi niya nasabi un, although sometimes we should consider others na they might find it quite annoying.
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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptyTue Nov 09, 2010 10:03 pm

@kanjiruminamoto: wahhh!! ang hirap ispell name mo!! me din eh... reseaching pa din other ways to improve... btw, What's EB? Violin Luthier 331934

@KundarmaH: T.T mostly kasi ng kasali sa site na ito ay from luzon (specifically metro manila)... Im from zamboanga kc so medyo malayo... can't leave my band for a while kc band scholar ako sa school namin... anytime pwd kc magkaroon ng tugtog... (FYI: Im from ADZU Concert Band)... pero gusto ko tlga kato ma meet at maki-jamming with you guyss.... Violin Luthier 7079

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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptyWed Nov 10, 2010 7:44 am

un china violin ay china violin parin...... Violin Luthier 331934
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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptyWed Nov 10, 2010 8:24 am

@ norje110 Ahaha! Ganun ba Pwede naman di buoin eh

you can Type me neme as Kanji aheheh!

Oops anglayoooowwww mo pala!? ahahah!

ou nga pala EB as in Eye Ball= Meeting eheh!

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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptyWed Nov 10, 2010 9:13 am

ui, @norje, kasama ka ba sa nagperform a couple of months ago sa AdMU? or was that another group na ateneo school din? aheh...
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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptyWed Nov 10, 2010 5:11 pm

wahahahahaha ipasetup na yan norje! :D
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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptyWed Nov 10, 2010 9:41 pm

@All

Sino sa inyo may idea kung magkano parepair ng crack.. 2 malaking crack sa parallel ng bass bar at papuntang F hole..?? Nadisgrasya si FERN eh.. ammmffff

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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptyThu Nov 11, 2010 2:27 am

ahmmmm... mas mura p sigurong bumili kna bago XD
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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptyThu Nov 11, 2010 7:24 am

@Admin

Yun nga iniiwasan ko eh.. Yung mapagastos ng mas mahal pa kesa sa bili ko kay FERN..

Pero sa lagay ng violin ngayon, playable pa naman siya.. May konting bawas lang sa dating buong tunog ng G at A, dahil siguro sa vibration ng open cracks.. Kaya hahabulin ko yun ng Mighty Bond mamaya... Hehehe

DI bale, by next year magkaka roon na din ako ng pambili ng OVH or Yita.. Or kung may mura man kay Sir Rommel Camba.
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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptyThu Nov 11, 2010 11:22 am

@bursky: ya... kasama ako... if you have the concert program, try to find my name sa French Horn Section... nanuod ka ba ng concert namin??
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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptySun Nov 21, 2010 8:25 pm

kidlat wrote:
un china violin ay china violin parin...... Violin Luthier 331934

...it depends on what china Violins is in status. Scott Cao's is chinese yet makes Violin for Itzak Pearlman, Nigel Kennedy, et al.
Ben Feng is a chinese yet received citation in his restoration works in Cremona.

One shop in Germany near Winter locale, sells a Chinese Violin amounting to almost 2 million pesos.
Chinese has lots of makers from the high to the lower end. Yet most of them studied in Cremona before being accepted in the list of the top 3 violins workshop in China. They have trio annual competition in Violin making. Here in the Philippines, we don't have, so most of our Luthiers here, even if there instruments are expensive, doesn't guarantee they have a great tonal register.

...it will also depend on what caliber of Violinist a person is. Great instrument with a great Instrumentalist can breaks the barriers regardless of what Violin s/he uses.

But if given the selection of high-end Violins made in the Philippines, I would consider the other country.
One of my friend in Cremona who visited the Philippines and was given to try a master Violin made by a famous luthier here (worth P80,000. +). The contact stated this. "ciò è un grande violino dell'allievo." which means that this is a great student level grade instrument.

I give the decisions to all of you as well because our ears must be the first judge to hear the quality sounds and not the eyes that must look only on the label and or the Violin maker.
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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptyMon Nov 22, 2010 1:52 pm

^china violin din yung sakin, pero OK na OK sya.. :)

siguro wrong term lang yung kay kidlat, but we get what he was trying to say.. :)
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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptyMon Nov 22, 2010 1:56 pm

"ganda" naman is relative ... depende kung saan gagamitin, at sino gagamit ... ;-)
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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptySat Dec 04, 2010 9:30 pm

jeje panung nadisgrasya si fern? pag crack malapit sa bass bar ang tendency eh mag buzz sya.....
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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptyWed Dec 22, 2010 4:24 pm

HELLO GUYS! I'M A NEW USER HERE. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MY VIOLIN... THE FINGERBOARD WAS SLIGHTLY DETACHED FROM THE NECK.... I GUESS I NEED TO REINFORCE IT WITH WOOD GLUE BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW.

CAN YOU SUGGEST ANY VIOLIN REPAIR SHOPS, WITH REASONABLE REPAIR PRICE, SOMEWHERE IN MANILA OR LAGUNA WHERE I CAN BRING MY VIOLIN? I PLAN TO HAVE IT REPAIRED BEFORE THE WHOLE VIOLIN FAILS!! =((
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SALAMAT CUTEWORM =)
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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptyWed Dec 22, 2010 4:39 pm

Kaso, mukang mahal ata magpagawa dun kay mang anghel... major repair kasi ang kelangan sa violin.. =(( kaya i'm trying to canvass on prices... at as much as possible, laguna area sana.

Pero thanks na din. =)
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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptyWed Dec 22, 2010 4:46 pm

Establshed na kasi si Mang Angel eh.. Marami sa mga suki nya eh mga members ng orchestra sa UST, UP at iba pang mga violin players..

Besides, Mas mahal ang magagastos mo kung bibili ka ng bago.. But a used violin is even more better than a newly built, dahil na break in na ito..
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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptyWed Dec 22, 2010 4:51 pm

mga magkano kaya ang tantya mo sa pagrepair nung sakin pag kay mang anghel... tas ipa-cut ko na rin siguro yung bridge para bumaba?? do you have any idea? thanks po. =))
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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptyWed Dec 22, 2010 4:55 pm

Lets wait for others who have had violin repairs.. They can quote you the price Mang Anghel charged them..

If i remember correctly around 2k ata yung neck reset.. It wouldn't be that hard to repair you violin kasi hindi na bubuksan yung top plates.. fingerboard lang ooperahin..
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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptyWed Dec 22, 2010 4:59 pm

SANA MAS MURA... PERO FEELING KO LESS THAN 1K LANG YUN.. FEELING KO LANG.. HEHEHEHE...

KAYA KO NAMAN CIA LAGAYAN NG WOOD GLUE KASO WALA AKO GAMIT PARA ILAGAY ULIT YUNG FINGER BOARD IN PLACE, LIKE CLAMP ETC.....=((
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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptyWed Dec 22, 2010 5:27 pm

Gud lak using wood glue... hehehehe


animal hide based glue kaya ang gamit sa violin construction.. saka kung sure mo yung alignment at declination angle ng fingerboard mo relative to the horizantal top plate...
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eh diba ang wood glue naman ay made of animal hide.. i suppose =)
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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptyWed Dec 22, 2010 5:39 pm

uo nga... mejo na-distort nga ng konti yung neck nung inobserve ko... ayun... I guess i need to bring it to the expert. hehehehe
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Thanks Cuteworm =)
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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptyWed Dec 22, 2010 6:34 pm

hehehe... It depends po sa violin magkano ang neck reset pero normally around 3k minimum kong nakuwa sa lahat ng pinareset ko ~___~
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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptyWed Dec 22, 2010 7:15 pm

@kundarmah: thank you po..

but what if di naman pala kelangan ng neck reset.. what if ordinary f/b regluing lang ang kelangan... how much would it cost?
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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptyWed Dec 22, 2010 7:16 pm

3K?? hahaha... i can already purchase a new student violin!!! hahahahaha
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@ KRAMSUN: iwasan mag "Do It Yourself Repair" kung hinde pa sagabal sa pag play mo ung problem, hayaan mo lang hangang sa madadala mo sa luthier. baka maapektuhan mo ung tunog ng violin or ung aesthetic appearance nito.

Malamang babaklasin mo ang buong fingerboard, lilihain para pumantay ang kahoy at sabay e gu-glue... Kakailanganin mo ng "clamp" o pangipit, for 3 to 4 days o 1 week, para siguradong lapat ang fingerboard sa neck, kundi baka magkaroon ng buzzling sound. Ginawa ko na iyan sa fingerboard ng guitar ko... pero iba ang violin, mas delicate at sensitive ito.
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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptyWed Dec 22, 2010 8:48 pm

@ KRAMSUN Tama si TalBlaiser

Ang laging Reklamo ng mga Luthier ay ang Iexperienced Repairing ng Violin
Lagi kasi silang may naeencounter ng pagrepair ng violin sa maling paraan
Kagaya ng nakita ko sa isang Violin site na
ung Luthier may nirerepair siyang Antique na violin na ginawa ng isang di kilalang
luthier.. napaka challenging daw sa kanya yung repairs kasi
Puro super glue at white glue ang Ginamit ng Inexperienced repairer...
Tumagal ng ilang buwan sa kanya ung violin para lang maibalik sa dating estado ung violin

Note: Cruicial sa Violin ang Superglue at Wood Glue!

kasi ang Wood Glue na nabibili sa Hardware Store ay may dtatlong klase
(Lagi kasi akong Bumibili Para sa Art Projects XD)
ung White glue , Wood Resin Glue at ung Plastic Resin Glue
at lahat ng iyon ay hindi applicable sa Violin...

1. Ang White Glue ay konting moist lang Bibigay na!
2. Wood Resin Glue Halos, Take note "Halos" Kasing tibay ng Hide Glue kaso
hindi applicable sa Sound Production..
3. Plastic Resin.. Permanent na to hindi siya matatanggal at Mas pangit para sa Sound Production ng Violin.

At kagaya ng sabi ni TalBlaiser ay Super sensitive ang Violin Lalu na sa Glue na Ginamit.
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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptyWed Dec 22, 2010 9:10 pm

WOW... NOW I SEE... HEHEHEHE... I JUST THOUGHT OF IT KASI WALA PA AKO BUDGET PARA MAGPAGAWA.. HAHAHA... KAYA SANA MATULUNGAN NIYO DIN AKO KUNG SAN MURA MAGPAGAWA AT THE SAME TIME WORTH THE PRICE I'LL BE PAYING FOR IT... BESIDES THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT I WILL BE ENCOUNTERING A REPAIR ON MY VIOLIN

THANKS TALBLAISER AND KANJIRUMINAMOTO, ANG BAIT NINYO.... =)) I'LL INFORM YOU OF ANY PROGRESS REGARDING THIS MATTER =))
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Walang Anuman Yun KRAMSUN!

An Early Warning is A Good Thing to prevent Negative Results ehehe...Violin Luthier 238898

Marami pang medical Malpractice sa Violin ang maeencounter mo
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PostSubject: Re: Violin Luthier   Violin Luthier EmptyThu Dec 23, 2010 9:34 am

@kanjiruminamoto: nagkakaroon na ako ng light at hopes para sa nasirang violin ko. =)).. pera na lang ang kulang para maipagawa ko ito. =)
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