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hello po mga ka-PV!!!! tatanong ko lng po kung "OK" naman po ung brand na mozart. guisseppi, or fernando?



pinapatanong po kasi saken ng friend ko, may nakita daw po kasi syang murang violins sa may v.mapa...... ndi naman po ba un madaling masira or any negative comments or bad experiences from the said brands?



THANK YOU IN ADVANCED!!!!


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for a beginner ang masasabi ko : Go na !!!... ^_^
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baroqueviolin wrote:
for a beginner ang masasabi ko : Go na !!!... ^_^


THANKS PO!!! ayun...... pero po between the 3 brands, anu po ung mas preferred nyu?
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Fernando palang ang nakatry na ako ... pero Clow.... always remember :

pag dating sa 'student violins' the brand is irrelevant ... u have to individually inspect them kung may mga awang, major issues etc......

usually ang hindi maiiwasan : irregular fingerboard - dapat ipapatag yun sa luthier... bridge ... etc... ^_^
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baroqueviolin wrote:
Fernando palang ang nakatry na ako ... pero Clow.... always remember :

pag dating sa 'student violins' the brand is irrelevant ... u have to individually inspect them kung may mga awang, major issues etc......

usually ang hindi maiiwasan : irregular fingerboard - dapat ipapatag yun sa luthier... bridge ... etc... ^_^

Thanks for the enlightment po...... pero po anu po ung "irregular fingerboard"???? saka pede na rin po ba makahingi ng advice sa pagbili ng violin po..... without testing po..... like weight itself, etc......
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errr ... usually kasi ung surface ng finger board hindi tama ... usually ung part na sakto sa E string.... masyadong mataas at halos nadikit na ung E string... usually un ang sakit ng Student violins....

ang solution : ipakayod sa luthier.... ^_^
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baroqueviolin wrote:
errr ... usually kasi ung surface ng finger board hindi tama ... usually ung part na sakto sa E string.... masyadong mataas at halos nadikit na ung E string... usually un ang sakit ng Student violins....

ang solution : ipakayod sa luthier.... ^_^


thanks po sa tip..... at least ndi po nangangapa sa pagbili.... MARAMING SALAMAT PO!!!!!
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hello...makikisingit lang po.

about sa bachendorf...bumili kasi kami kahapon sa lyric MOA.

ang type namin ay yung walang kintab na bachendorf....kaso wala stock kaya yung makintab

nalang kinuha namin ng tatay ko.

kasi mukang upgraded na yung walang kintab kasi metal na yung fine tuners and ano ba

yung strings nun, synthetic or metal pa? diko kasi naitanong.
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@Clowreed11 lahat un Machine made so super tibay un lang ung Finger board ahah
at pati ung tunog kailangan concious ka dun kasi kadalasan base sa mga Experiences
ng mga matagal na sa PV eh tunog Lata daw pag nagkamali ng Bili! hahah!
Kaya Kailangan Itesting Bago Bumili Magdala ka ng Sariling Bow tapos Itesting mo..
Pag di pumayag ung nagtitinda layasan mo kunyari at sabihin "hmp! sa iba nalang ako titingin at bibili!"hehe!

@ Wambadu Lahat ng tinitinda sa Lyric or JB or any other Music Stores ay di po Upgraded
or Set- uped so Automatically papa Set- up mo siya sa Luthier,
and ung Strings na Nasa Set ng Violin ay Default meaning Steel String yan!
at mostly ung hair sa Bow ng Violin ay Synthetic Hairs "Kadalasan"...

wag ka munang mag upgrade ng String from steel to synthetic core
para masanay ka at gumanda ung pag tugtog mo ng violin :D
Practice ka muna Using Steel String...
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@kanjiruminamoto: salamat po sa tip...... anyways, ndi po kasi ako marunnong tumingin nng violin, recently lng po ako nakahiram kea po nanghihingi rin po ako ng tips and advices... actually po, ung nahiram ko pong violin is "VIOLIN 4/4" po ung brand nya....... matagal na daw po nabili un, 8 yrs ago po ata...... ang prob ko lng po sa violin na un is i think ung bridge po kasi kpag nasa "G" po ako sa "D string", nagvvibrate po ung "A string".... OK naman po ung tunog nya, since ndi pa po ako nakakaexperience ng ibang violin.....

un po ung reason kung bakit ndi po talaga ako sure sa pagbili ng violin brands po na nabanggit ko...
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based sa tanong mo, 2 pv members i think ang may fernando brand.
si jeje at si louie.

yung mozart naman 2 members din, si franz at si carl pero pinalitan na nila ng handmade.

yung guisseppi wala ako kilala na meron nun.

@jeje: ano masasabi mo kay fern?
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PostSubject: Re: query: about mozart, guisseppi, and fernando brand   query: about mozart, guisseppi, and fernando brand EmptyThu Dec 30, 2010 5:27 am

General rule sa pagbili ng factory made instruments.[Experience sa pagbili ko ng mga guitar]

1. Good construction: look out for defect.
- walang nakalabas na kahoy na puwedeng tumusok o gumasgas.
- okay lang ung medyo lumabas ung glue, alam mo na hinde tinipid.
- comfortable playing.
- For violin. ung pagkagawa sa neck, maganda na ung medyo makapal kesa sa masyadong payat. at hinde dapat nakadikit ung fingerboard nito sa belly ng violin + ung sinabi na ni Baroqueviolin

2. Sound quality: malakas at buo ang tunog, hinde ung parang inipit ang ilong habang nagsasalita. walang buzzling sound. dapat tumunog kaagad pag nilaro. kaya dala ka ng sarili mong bow.[Strong point ni Kanji] hinde mo puwedeng asahan ang bagong rosin na bow.

- bawat instrumento ay may voice[vowels A, E, I, O, U] ikaw na ang mamimili, yung hofner ko dito "WA" ang voice!? kakaiba no, pero si Yvette "U" ang pinuproduce niyang voice. ung sa pinsan ko na may Gliga, mababa at malaki ang tunog, pero "E" ang voice... gusto ko ng ganoon, pero out pa sa budget ko ^^;

3. Aesthetic Appearance: gusto mo ba ung itsura at amoy? walang tao siguro gusto maglaro ng "chaka-doll" he he he.

Iyan lang naman, para makaiwas ka ng major repair sa luthier, para set up lang ang gagastusin :D




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TalBlaiser wrote:
General rule sa pagbili ng factory made instruments.[Experience sa pagbili ko ng mga guitar]

1. Good construction: look out for defect.
- walang nakalabas na kahoy na puwedeng tumusok o gumasgas.
- okay lang ung medyo lumabas ung glue, alam mo na hinde tinipid.
- comfortable playing.
- For violin. ung pagkagawa sa neck, maganda na ung medyo makapal kesa sa masyadong payat. at hinde dapat nakadikit ung fingerboard nito sa belly ng violin + ung sinabi na ni Baroqueviolin

2. Sound quality: malakas at buo ang tunog, hinde ung parang inipit ang ilong habang nagsasalita. walang buzzling sound. dapat tumunog kaagad pag nilaro. kaya dala ka ng sarili mong bow.[Strong point ni Kanji] hinde mo puwedeng asahan ang bagong rosin na bow.

- bawat instrumento ay may voice[vowels A, E, I, O, U] ikaw na ang mamimili, yung hofner ko dito "WA" ang voice!? kakaiba no, pero si Yvette "U" ang pinuproduce niyang voice. ung sa pinsan ko na may Gliga, mababa at malaki ang tunog, pero "E" ang voice... gusto ko ng ganoon, pero out pa sa budget ko ^^;

3. Aesthetic Appearance: gusto mo ba ung itsura at amoy? walang tao siguro gusto maglaro ng "chaka-doll" he he he.

Iyan lang naman, para makaiwas ka ng major repair sa luthier, para set up lang ang gagastusin :D






wow!! THANKS PO SA TIPS!!!!! mmalaking tulong po ito...... ung about po dun sa vowels, ndi ko po gets..... panu po malalaman un???? ibobow po ung violin? annong string po?
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@ clowreed11: Well personal preferences lang iyun. parang boses ng tao ang violin, example pag nag full bowing ka sa G-string, ano ang naririnig mo na voice? [*vowel pronounciation] yun ba ay:
-aaaaaaaaaaa
-eeeeeeeeeee
-iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
-ooooooooooo &
-uuuuuuuuuuu
mararamdaman mo iyun pag sinabayan mo ung violin, ung hofner ko pag sasabayan mo "wwwaaaaaaaa" ang tunog, kumbaga "A" ang voice nito. ewan ko lang kung bakit pansin ung "W" sa umpisa? siguro kailangan pa setup ito :D

Sa ngayon, hinde ganun ka importante, pero maganda na sensitive ka rin sa voice ng mga violin.
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Tingnan mo rin ang woods na ginamit sa construction.

For example, ang Alfred Stingl by Hofner AS-040-V model, yung fingerboard and tuning pegs nun, "ebonized" wood, that is, hard wood na colored black to simulate the look of Ebony wood.

Yung Alfred Stingl by Hofner As-060-V model, Ebony Wood na ang Fingerboard, Tuning Pegs, and Chinrest... It also has purfling, which is important as well...

I'm not sure about the Cremona SV-100 available at JB. It looks good, but I'm not sure what the fingerboard and Pegs are made of, they don't seem to be ebony...

The Bachendorff beginner violins (P3,300 for the non-glossy finish and P4,200 for the glossy finish) that are available from Lyric appear to have ebonized fingerboards and tuning pegs as well... They do have another model, worth around P5,500, I think, but looking at the model, I could not be sure if the fingerboard was ebony; the pegs on that model appear to be boxwood or similar... Maybe someone can confirm this...

The tailpieces on beginner violins appear to be generic types with built-in tuners (I could call them Wittner-types)... Sooner or later, you will be upgrading to a set of fittings anyway, but things like the Fingerboard are built or glued in, and it can cost to have that upgraded later. I'm learning the hard way now with one of my older violins, a Lark (yup, I was young and didn't know much when I bought that instrument)...

Anyway, as to all that TalBlaiser mentioned, I agree query: about mozart, guisseppi, and fernando brand 943811 query: about mozart, guisseppi, and fernando brand 943811

p.s. as to the Mozart, guiseppi or Fernando brands, I have no experience, sorry.

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jurusu wrote:
based sa tanong mo, 2 pv members i think ang may fernando brand.
si jeje at si louie.

yung mozart naman 2 members din, si franz at si carl pero pinalitan na nila ng handmade.

yung guisseppi wala ako kilala na meron nun.

@jeje: ano masasabi mo kay fern?


A good set up of pegs and wooden fittings plus a synthetic strings (not necessarily DOms or Evah, kahit china basta synthetic) and a good rosin.. maganda na ang tunog.. Remember to have the bridge carved at your most comfortable height..
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They do have another model, worth around P5,500, I think, but looking at the model, I could not be sure if the fingerboard was ebony; the pegs on that model appear to be boxwood or similar... Maybe someone can confirm this...

Ang gamit ko ngayon na model ay ito, hindi ko rin sure kung ebony yung fingerboard, pero it's a good student instrument.

nakita ko na yang mga brand na yan (mozart, fernando & guiseppi), kung bibili ka ng mga ganitong brand wag sa sta.mesa hehe.. mas mura sa Quiapo Raon at matatawaran mo pa below 2k (kung magaling ka tumawad)

meron akong Cello na Mozart at tingin ko maxadong magaan yung bow niya and i think it is a poor bow ewan ko lang sa violin model nila kung maganda.

meron akong kilalang may fenando, ok naman yung tunog niya pero mas gusto ko ang tunog ng Schindler kasi mas round, pero kung di mo afford ang Schindler (siguro mga 3-4k yun) mag-Craftman ka nalang, mas type ko yung tunog nun kaysa sa Cremona..
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trivia lng po : they don't usually sell authentic ebony parts :) normal na kahoy lng po na kinulayan upang mag mukhang ebony :D ang real ebony po ay medyo reddish yung luob and itim :D
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