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PostSubject: [help]: buzzing string   [help]: buzzing string EmptyMon Jan 10, 2011 6:59 am

bele ganito po mga ka-PV, kasi kpag tinutugtog ko ung A sa D-string, nagbubuzz ung A-string... i mean, nagvvibrate din sya khit ndi naman natatamaan ng bow hairs.... nu po kaya solusyon dun?


tapos isa pa po... kpag tinutugtog ko naman un C or C# sa A-string, may sabit, pero ung ibang notes ok naman....


saka saka ung violin nga po pala walang soundpost (ngaun ko lng naalala itanong...)....... LOLz



pinahiram lng po saken ung violin na ginagamit ko ngaun, eh ilang taon na ho kasi ata un natambak... kaya ho habang nasa pangangalaga ko eh gusto ko po sana maayos, consideration nlng po sa pagpapahiram saken........
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PostSubject: Re: [help]: buzzing string   [help]: buzzing string EmptyMon Jan 10, 2011 8:38 am

clowreed11 wrote:
ung violin nga po pala walang soundpost

ehh?? naku, palagyan mo na ng soundpost yan!!! eventually kasi baka bumigay ang top plate ng violin kapag walang soundpost dahil sa tension ng strings na pasan-pasan ng bridge, lol. di nga, seryoso....
plus, di ko maimagine ang sound ng violin na walang soundpost. and baka isa na rin yun sa reasons kaya may buzz??

you gotta have that fixed na, wag na patagalin [help]: buzzing string 4



edit: PS: madami pwedeng reasons kumbakit nag-bu-buzz ang violin mo, gusto ko pa sana sagutin pero i have to go to work na, hehe. hopefully may ibang makasagot nyan for you.
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PostSubject: Re: [help]: buzzing string   [help]: buzzing string EmptyMon Jan 10, 2011 8:50 am

Lowell is right, bibigay yung top nyan, baka mag crack in more than one place yung top ng violin kung walang soundpost... That may be the cause of the buzzing, but it can cause serious and permanent damage to the violin itself if you continue playing it...

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PostSubject: Re: [help]: buzzing string   [help]: buzzing string EmptyMon Jan 10, 2011 9:59 am

Clowreed well Dudugtungan ko ung sinabi ni Kuya Lowell

Kung may Sound post ung Violin( yung sa iyo wala)
at may Buzz isa sa possibilities ay Magkatono ung dalawang String

Katulad nga ng sabi mo na ung pagpapatunog ng A= la sa D STring
nag vivibrate ung A Sting nag di nmn ito pinapatunog
ang ibig sabihin nun Magkatono sila
isa rin yang paraan na nasa Tune ang iyong Violin

pero dapat di siya nag poproduce ng Buzzing sound
or dapat walang tunog


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PostSubject: Re: [help]: buzzing string   [help]: buzzing string EmptyMon Jan 10, 2011 12:47 pm

Ung aking Hofner, nilagyan ko ng papel ung nut para medyo tumaas ang strings, nawala ung mga buzzling sounds.

IMO Nasa panahon din iyan, pag tag init walang buzz pero ngayong malamig ang panahon may buzz ^^; kaya siguro kailangan mag pa set up from time to time, dahil mamaya eh may ibang dahilan na kung bakit may buzzling sound ang instrument mo.
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PostSubject: Re: [help]: buzzing string   [help]: buzzing string EmptyMon Jan 10, 2011 2:30 pm

@clow

- tama si Lowell, nagsasuffer ang plate ng violin mo dahil walang sound post !!! **solution = go to a luthier or repairer and have the sound post reinstalled

- as what talblaiser has said, pwedeng weather, pwede ring uneven yung finger board at mataas yung part nya na nasa ilalim mismo ng string na nagbubuzz, or yung nut masyadong mababa kaya tumatama yung vibrating string sa fingerboard. **solution = go to a luthier to have the finger board "scraped." Or kung nut yung mababa, you can use folded parchment to put on the grove of the string that is buzzing, para temporarily mailayo ung string sa fingerboard. You will still have to visit a luthier.

- icheck mo rin yung Fine Tuners, baka yung fine tuner maluwag kaya nagbabuzz ung isa sa strings ***you can do this by yourself. ^_^

- check mo rin ung bridge. Dapat tama yung curve. Dapat hindi nagtatamaan yung strings pag nagbobow ka... try this = use a protractor.
>use the flat side (edge) of the protractor
>patong mo sa isang string, sa part ng string na may contact sa bridge/ nakapatong mismo sa bridge.
>Dapat walang ibang string na tatama sa protractor mo kundi ung string lang na pinagpapatungan ng protractor mo - may sufficient distance dapat yung ibang strings sa protractor mo
>do this on all four strings, kapag may masyadong malapit or nadikit sa protractor mo, hindi tama yung curve ng bridge mow... ;-)
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PostSubject: Re: [help]: buzzing string   [help]: buzzing string EmptyMon Jan 10, 2011 2:34 pm

mura lang namn painstall ng soundpost ke mang anghel eh, mga 200 pesos. :D
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PostSubject: Re: [help]: buzzing string   [help]: buzzing string EmptyMon Jan 10, 2011 3:39 pm

ikaw na ang may bagong soundpost luigi =))
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PostSubject: Re: [help]: buzzing string   [help]: buzzing string EmptyMon Jan 10, 2011 7:13 pm

lowell ♫ wrote:
clowreed11 wrote:
ung violin nga po pala walang soundpost

ehh?? naku, palagyan mo na ng soundpost yan!!! eventually kasi baka bumigay ang top plate ng violin kapag walang soundpost dahil sa tension ng strings na pasan-pasan ng bridge, lol. di nga, seryoso....
plus, di ko maimagine ang sound ng violin na walang soundpost. and baka isa na rin yun sa reasons kaya may buzz??

you gotta have that fixed na, wag na patagalin [help]: buzzing string 4



edit: PS: madami pwedeng reasons kumbakit nag-bu-buzz ang violin mo, gusto ko pa sana sagutin pero i have to go to work na, hehe. hopefully may ibang makasagot nyan for you.


un nga po naiisip ko, gusto ko po talaga ipaayos, kaso lng nagiipon ako for my own violin, plus, wala pa po kasing work, nagaaral pa po kea hirap magipon....


SALAMAT po sa time sa pagreply sa topic ko....... very much appreciated po....
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PostSubject: Re: [help]: buzzing string   [help]: buzzing string EmptyMon Jan 10, 2011 7:16 pm

cube.root.sam wrote:
Lowell is right, bibigay yung top nyan, baka mag crack in more than one place yung top ng violin kung walang soundpost... That may be the cause of the buzzing, but it can cause serious and permanent damage to the violin itself if you continue playing it...

Cube


un nga rin po ung inaalala ko.....
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kanjiruminamoto wrote:
Clowreed well Dudugtungan ko ung sinabi ni Kuya Lowell

Kung may Sound post ung Violin( yung sa iyo wala)
at may Buzz isa sa possibilities ay Magkatono ung dalawang String

Katulad nga ng sabi mo na ung pagpapatunog ng A= la sa D STring
nag vivibrate ung A Sting nag di nmn ito pinapatunog
ang ibig sabihin nun Magkatono sila
isa rin yang paraan na nasa Tune ang iyong Violin

pero dapat di siya nag poproduce ng Buzzing sound
or dapat walang tunog



dapat nga po wala po syang tunog.... nung natry ko po kasi ung violin nung friend ko, smooth po ung tunog...... well, ndi ko po alam kung dahil mas maganda po ung violin nya...... :p
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TalBlaiser wrote:
Ung aking Hofner, nilagyan ko ng papel ung nut para medyo tumaas ang strings, nawala ung mga buzzling sounds.

IMO Nasa panahon din iyan, pag tag init walang buzz pero ngayong malamig ang panahon may buzz ^^; kaya siguro kailangan mag pa set up from time to time, dahil mamaya eh may ibang dahilan na kung bakit may buzzling sound ang instrument mo.


well, may point din po kau..... actually nung malamig po ung panahon, ok po ung tunog nya...... then nitong uminit, medyo nagbago nga po.... pero matagal na po talaga ung buzzing sound nya...... baka nga po dhil talaga sa wala syang soundpost.......
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PostSubject: Re: [help]: buzzing string   [help]: buzzing string EmptyMon Jan 10, 2011 7:35 pm

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@clow

- tama si Lowell, nagsasuffer ang plate ng violin mo dahil walang sound post !!! **solution = go to a luthier or repairer and have the sound post reinstalled

- as what talblaiser has said, pwedeng weather, pwede ring uneven yung finger board at mataas yung part nya na nasa ilalim mismo ng string na nagbubuzz, or yung nut masyadong mababa kaya tumatama yung vibrating string sa fingerboard. **solution = go to a luthier to have the finger board "scraped." Or kung nut yung mababa, you can use folded parchment to put on the grove of the string that is buzzing, para temporarily mailayo ung string sa fingerboard. You will still have to visit a luthier.

- icheck mo rin yung Fine Tuners, baka yung fine tuner maluwag kaya nagbabuzz ung isa sa strings ***you can do this by yourself. ^_^

- check mo rin ung bridge. Dapat tama yung curve. Dapat hindi nagtatamaan yung strings pag nagbobow ka... try this = use a protractor.
>use the flat side (edge) of the protractor
>patong mo sa isang string, sa part ng string na may contact sa bridge/ nakapatong mismo sa bridge.
>Dapat walang ibang string na tatama sa protractor mo kundi ung string lang na pinagpapatungan ng protractor mo - may sufficient distance dapat yung ibang strings sa protractor mo
>do this on all four strings, kapag may masyadong malapit or nadikit sa protractor mo, hindi tama yung curve ng bridge mow... ;-)

ttry ko po yung sa nut and protractor... wala po budget sa pagvisit sa luthier.... plus wala rin pong luthier d2....
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PostSubject: Re: [help]: buzzing string   [help]: buzzing string EmptyMon Jan 10, 2011 7:37 pm

luigi-kun wrote:
mura lang namn painstall ng soundpost ke mang anghel eh, mga 200 pesos. :D


la po budget..... waaaa...... pagiipunan ko pa...... =(
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PostSubject: Re: [help]: buzzing string   [help]: buzzing string EmptyMon Jan 10, 2011 11:11 pm

@Crow: satingin ko kailangan mo paayus yung soundpost/ bridge sa luthier
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PostSubject: Re: [help]: buzzing string   [help]: buzzing string EmptyTue Jan 11, 2011 1:04 am

marc398 wrote:
@Crow: satingin ko kailangan mo paayus yung soundpost/ bridge sa luthier

onga po eh...... kasi nung nakaexperience ako ng maayos na violin, tapos nagplay ako sa pinahiram saken, parang gusto ko na ipaayos talaga..... kaso bibili na po ako ng saken......
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:D bili ka nlng tapos pa set up mo :D
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PostSubject: Re: [help]: buzzing string   [help]: buzzing string EmptyTue Jan 11, 2011 1:08 am

UPDATE!!!!


bale nilinis ko po ung violin kanina, then naglagay po ako ng kapirasong manipis na papel dun sa may nut ng A-string, and inayos ko rin sa alignment ung bridge, aun, nabawasan na po ung pagbubuzz nya unlike before... feeling ko po ung bridge kelangan ipassetup kasi ndi pantay ung tangent line spacing sa ibang string......


bale, mas ok na po ung tunong nya ng konti kumpara sa nakaraan.... balak ko rin palitan ng strings... naisip ko lng..... luma n rin strings eh....
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marc398 wrote:
:D bili ka nlng tapos pa set up mo :D


yeah..... malapit na rin ako makabili.... H-O-P-E-F-U-L-L-Y....... haha....
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yung post mo sa market place tignan mo may balak mag bigay ng violin [help]: buzzing string 23713
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yung post mo sa market place tignan mo may balak mag bigay ng violin [help]: buzzing string 23713


thanks po sa pag-update saken..... ^^,
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