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PostSubject: PAHELP NAMAN!!   Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:41 pm

Im interested na matutu ng violin.. pero wala ako, anu bang brand ang maganda pra sa bgginer tulad ko!!
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PostSubject: Re: PAHELP NAMAN!!   Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:32 pm

Ilang taon na po kayo? para malaman naten sukat.

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PostSubject: Re: PAHELP NAMAN!!   Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:17 pm

And magkano ang budget mo?
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PostSubject: Re: PAHELP NAMAN!!   Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:05 am

siguru mas magandang tanong "ilang pulgada po ba ang dipa nila ?" .... ;-)
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PostSubject: Re: PAHELP NAMAN!!   Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:54 am

Kailangan natin ng thread for " Violin Basic Guideline"

@ zoooey06: kahit anong brand pupuwede basta maganda ang pagkagawa :D

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PostSubject: Re: PAHELP NAMAN!!   Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:30 pm

5,6 po ako.. im 19yrs old.. sabi ko nga po may expirience ako sa organ hindi naman po sa pagyayabang sa tingin ko po mddali akong mkaka.relate sa violin kc note din ang hini.hit, saka im really interested po tlga!! sana po ma.share nyu nman din ang nlalaman nyu po about violin!!
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PostSubject: Re: PAHELP NAMAN!!   Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:26 am

zoooey06 wrote:
5,6 po ako.. im 19yrs old.. sabi ko nga po may expirience ako sa organ hindi naman po sa pagyayabang sa tingin ko po mddali akong mkaka.relate sa violin kc note din ang hini.hit, saka im really interested po tlga!! sana po ma.share nyu nman din ang nlalaman nyu po about violin!!

Whole size[4/4] violin ka na pala. magsubok ka muna sa mga kakilala or sa mga store na pumapayag na mag pagamit. Iba ang violin sa keyboard o sa fretted string instrument, sapagkat hinde lang sa note naka base ang pagtugtog kundi pati sa pandinig dahil wala itong fret. maling bagsak ng daliri sa finger board o maling hagod ng bow sa strings eh sintunado na kaagad. kung sanay ka sa "fretless guitar" mabilis ka maka relate sa intonation ng violin.

Maganda rin na may background ka na sa music, kahit papaano review na lang kayo sa musical notations, ako rin hanggang grade 5 ang inabot ko sa piano/keyboard, kaya sa mga technique at pag play na lang kami naka focus ng instructor ko sa violin.
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PostSubject: Re: PAHELP NAMAN!!   Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:45 pm

Ahem!
@ Tal May Fretless Guitar b? <(Kahit di naninigarilyo)
heheh! di ko alam kung meron nun....

meron po ata tayong Thread for "Violin for Beginners"
Sure nmn na Grabeng tabon ang nangyari doon ahahaha!

Recomended Brand of Violins for Students are:

Bachendorf< highly Recomended, Price= 5k and Above
Cremona< Medium Recomended, Price= 4k and Above
Hofner
Mozzart< It Depends, Price= 2.5k and Above ( Depende sa Store Kadalasan may Diskwento or may tubo hehehe!)

Sa Age nyu po Zoooey06 Recomend na po sa iyo ung 4/4(full)Sized na
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PostSubject: Re: PAHELP NAMAN!!   Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:48 am

@ Kanji: he he he yup meron iyan, lalo na sa mga electric http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fretless_guitar dahil napakalaki talaga ng range ng voice na magagawa pag walang fret, sarap gamitin sa pag lead/solo. and since wala kami makita dito noon, kami na lang ang nag baklas sa mga frets & elevate ung saddle, plus ung isa sa kasamahan namin, may mga hukay/grooves pa ang finger board ang lupit!

Ung Hofner, alam ko nasa 6k ang China student entry, nasa 4k ito pag sale yata.

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PostSubject: Re: PAHELP NAMAN!!   Sun Feb 13, 2011 5:31 pm

ganun po ba?? nakita ko na po ang 4/4 prang anlaki sakin mas feel ko po ata ang 3/4 bachendorf po san kaya ang station po nun??

opo marununng nman ako sa mga pick.up pagdating sa fret kasi na ezpirience ko na rin mag lead guitar, mahirap.. peru kung pag aaralan matututo naman.. diba???
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PostSubject: Re: PAHELP NAMAN!!   Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:19 pm

I personally recommend these brands because it's reasonable for me plus the sound is okay na for beginners (not so frustrating). This is in particular order. :)

1. Cremona (brown)
2. Fernando (brown or orange will do)
3. Hofner
4. Bachendorff (with black lining, not the orange one)

Minsan kasi may bachendorff na hindi ko type. especially the very cheap ones. So don't get confused too much. It's better kung may kasama kayo na bibili ng violin na marunong para maiwasan ang mishap at baka magsisi sa binili. Anyway, basically, just check the pegs kung hindi masyadong tight. Usually hofner and bachendorff have tight pegs. Just make sure that the violin that you'll buy looks and feels decent (yes, you can feel it)

Ayun. I think you should buy the 4/4 size even though you think it's too big for you. It depends on your arm length, kung hindi talaga kaya, 3/4 talaga. pero masyadong maliit yung 3/4 for an adult.
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PostSubject: Re: PAHELP NAMAN!!   Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:24 pm

@zoooey:

Choosing the right violin size...
1. Take an arm measurement. Have the student put his left arm out to the side, as straight as possible. Measure only the left arm unless a teacher has said otherwise. Take the measurement from the bottom of the neck straight out to the palm of the hand. End the measurement in the center of the palm.

2. Take the measurement twice to be sure of the exact number of inches. Round the measurement up to the nearest half inch.

3. Choose a size 1/16 if the measurement was 14 inches or less. Choose the size 1/10 if the measurement was 15 inches or between 14 and 15 inches.

4. Choose the size 1/8 if the measurement was between 15 inches and 16.5 inches. Choose the ¼ size for measurements between 16.5 and 18.5 inches.

5. Use a ½ size violin for a measurement of between 18.5 inches and 20 inches. Use a ¾ size if the measurement is between 20 and 22 inches. Choose the ¾ if you are a small adult and the full size is too large.


TIP
Some violin makers make a 7/8 size that is for professional adult female violinists. This can be a hard size to find, but it is worth looking for if the full is too large and the 3/4 is too small.

Read more: How to Choose the Right Violin Size | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_2057895_choose-right-violin-size.html#ixzz1Avfl2IbY

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PostSubject: Re: PAHELP NAMAN!!   Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:27 pm

@kanji:

OO may fret less guitar. pero yung nagamit ko eh fret less na bass guitar. mas masarap gamitin kasi hindi sagabal ang frets pag nag sslide.
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PostSubject: Re: PAHELP NAMAN!!   Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:18 pm

Well pretty much nasabi na naman lahat nila kung ano yung mga okay na violin na bilhin.

I would just like to add that kahit papaano dapat type mo yung violin na bibilhin mo. Kasi if not, baka lalo kang mas tamarin mag practice. Sa akin kasi may ibang violin na hindi ko gusto yung itsura (choosy!? haha!). In the end, mas mamomotivate kang magpractice if type mo yung instrument (in this case violin) na binili mo.

Just my two cents. :D

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PostSubject: Re: PAHELP NAMAN!!   Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:46 pm

Hi, I'm new here. Just want to ask besides the sound quality, what are the other things we have to check first before buying a violin? I've read something about neck alignment and stuff like that but don't actually know how to check for those. Thanks in advance
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PostSubject: Re: PAHELP NAMAN!!   Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:45 pm

@ Paigenotfound I hope this Helps!

In Checking the Fingerboard Height, you must Stick your Index Finger
under the Fingerboard at the under end of it, if your finger Slips easily
passing or just at the first joint of your index finger
its in the Righ Height but to make sure, you can measure the highest point of
the Violin Fingerbord it must be around 20mm it can be 19.1- 21mm

Check the purfling
Purfling is the Line around the Violin, co'z there are two types of Purlfings
painted Purfling and, Inlaid wood Purfling, Wood Purfling is the best option
Check the F hole if both f holes are The same, Check the soundpost if it is in place
check the Scroll if I forgot the Specs of the Scroll
Check the tuning Pegs if they can be Easily turned or not Slips on its own
Check the Fittings if they are all made in the same wood
hmm Ithink That's All
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PostSubject: Re: PAHELP NAMAN!!   Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:07 pm

@kanjiruminamoto

Many thanks for the informative guidelines. I'll keep those in mind.

Maybe I should measure the height of the fingerboard with a ruler to be exact.

I'm planning to buy a Hofner, is it good for a beginner or should I stick with other brands?
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PostSubject: Re: PAHELP NAMAN!!   Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:45 am

Hofner is a Good Beginner's Violin But I think You should
Also See the Other Brands so That you can Chose Whats Preferably
you Want! :D
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PostSubject: Re: PAHELP NAMAN!!   Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:54 am

Hmm yeah maybe I should consider other brands. I've read a lot of threads with users recommending Banchendorff too.

Hirap pala bumili ng violin.
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PostSubject: Re: PAHELP NAMAN!!   Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:24 am

Mahirap pag pahihirapan ang sarili. kaya gawing simple.

- Magsama ng marunong mag violin sa pagbili.
- Wag tumingin sa brand.
- Magandahan sa itsura at tunog ng violin.[personal taste]

Sa ngayon halos pare-pareho ang tunog ng mga entry level. kaya wag ka matakot sa pag pili, and by the time na bibili ka na ng advance to master level, alam mo na kung ano ang tunog na hinahanap mo.

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PostSubject: Re: PAHELP NAMAN!!   Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:40 am

Thanks T@l Blaiser

As for
- Magsama ng marunong mag violin sa pagbili.

Negative, kasi I don't know anyone who plays the violin. Lalo na dito sa place namin.

Most info I gathered is from online research lang talaga.

Add mo pa yung negative comments I received from friends na "Mahirap magviolin at matagal matutunan" when I simply ask them if they happen to know any violin instructor

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PostSubject: Re: PAHELP NAMAN!!   Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:52 am

Taga saan ka?

Mahirap talaga ang violin pag self study lang. kailangan ng instructor para ma enjoy mo kaagad ang pag practice at self study. Maraming bagay hinde mo makikita sa online.

Kahit may teacher ka, pag aaralan ka muna nito bago ka tuturuan. ung nagkita nga kami ni fox para turuan ko humawak ng violin, hinde ko alam kung bakit hinde niya maipit ung violin sa leeg, pero, nang nakita ko ung face niya ulit sa FB, napansin ko na mataas ang angle ng jaw niya, hinde puwede ung aking paraan para sa kanya... [sorry fox, ngayon ko lang napansin, dahil saglitan lang tayo nag meet noon he he he] Case to case basis ang pag aaral ng violin, most of the time self study talaga, pero magigiging effective ito pag may instructor. May mga violin teacher dito, mag ask ka lang.
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PostSubject: Re: PAHELP NAMAN!!   Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:44 pm

I'm from Bataan. I'm planning to take formal lessons pero kung wala dito sa area namin I have to search somewhere else.

Masipag naman ako mag self study pero I really need an instructor para sa foundation in playing and to correct na din yung mga bad habits.

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PostSubject: Re: PAHELP NAMAN!!   Tue Feb 15, 2011 7:29 pm

T@l Blaiser wrote:
Taga saan ka?

Mahirap talaga ang violin pag self study lang. kailangan ng instructor para ma enjoy mo kaagad ang pag practice at self study. Maraming bagay hinde mo makikita sa online.

Kahit may teacher ka, pag aaralan ka muna nito bago ka tuturuan. ung nagkita nga kami ni fox para turuan ko humawak ng violin, hinde ko alam kung bakit hinde niya maipit ung violin sa leeg, pero, nang nakita ko ung face niya ulit sa FB, napansin ko na mataas ang angle ng jaw niya, hinde puwede ung aking paraan para sa kanya... [sorry fox, ngayon ko lang napansin, dahil saglitan lang tayo nag meet noon he he he] Case to case basis ang pag aaral ng violin, most of the time self study talaga, pero magigiging effective ito pag may instructor. May mga violin teacher dito, mag ask ka lang.


OK LANG TAL! hindi masama loob ko! haha

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share ko lang wala sa brand binili ko violin ko just 2days after reasearch sa net 3days of store hunting tiningnan ko yun pinakamahal na student violin na nakita ko wala ako na ramdaman pero nung buying ako sa isang local store pinuntahan ko kasi sale sila that time. Buying ako dapat cremona kukunin ko pero un nilabas ng isang clerk un Alfred stingl by hofner first time i saw it i fell inlove kaya un ang nabili ko rather than cremona (nadapat babayaran ko na sa cashier) (FYI: wala ako alam sa violin and how to play it or what to check it kung maganda siya o hindi) basta kapag naramdaman mo na yun na un ang violin na tinitibok ng puso mo ibuy mo
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PostSubject: Re: PAHELP NAMAN!!   Tue Feb 15, 2011 7:30 pm

T@l Blaiser wrote:
Taga saan ka?

Mahirap talaga ang violin pag self study lang. kailangan ng instructor para ma enjoy mo kaagad ang pag practice at self study. Maraming bagay hinde mo makikita sa online.

Kahit may teacher ka, pag aaralan ka muna nito bago ka tuturuan. ung nagkita nga kami ni fox para turuan ko humawak ng violin, hinde ko alam kung bakit hinde niya maipit ung violin sa leeg, pero, nang nakita ko ung face niya ulit sa FB, napansin ko na mataas ang angle ng jaw niya, hinde puwede ung aking paraan para sa kanya... [sorry fox, ngayon ko lang napansin, dahil saglitan lang tayo nag meet noon he he he] Case to case basis ang pag aaral ng violin, most of the time self study talaga, pero magigiging effective ito pag may instructor. May mga violin teacher dito, mag ask ka lang.


OK LANG TAL! hindi masama loob ko! haha

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share ko lang wala sa brand binili ko violin ko just 2days after reasearch sa net 3days of store hunting tiningnan ko yun pinakamahal na student violin na nakita ko wala ako na ramdaman pero nung buying ako sa isang local store pinuntahan ko kasi sale sila that time. Buying ako dapat cremona kukunin ko pero un nilabas ng isang clerk un Alfred stingl by hofner first time i saw it i fell inlove kaya un ang nabili ko rather than cremona (nadapat babayaran ko na sa cashier) (FYI: wala ako alam sa violin and how to play it or what to check it kung maganda siya o hindi) basta kapag naramdaman mo na yun na un ang violin na tinitibok ng puso mo ibuy mo
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PostSubject: Re: PAHELP NAMAN!!   Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:10 pm

@ paigenotfound: saan ka bibili ng violin mo? mabilis lang ma deretso ang bad habits, dahil mas comfortable and effective gamitin ang tamang paraan :D

@ fox: he he he, maganda ang alfred stingl na nakuha mo. IMO maganda ang mga Hofner series na entry level. Kaso noong 1996 wala pa yatang mga entry level na hofner, mga nasa 40k o 50k yata ung mga german Hofner noon, kaya sa cremona ako na uwi. ngayon marami ka nang brand makikita na puwedeng pag pilian :D
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PostSubject: Re: PAHELP NAMAN!!   Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:17 pm

@Fox
That's a nice story. Sana I'll have the same experience as yours pag nag hunt na din ako for a violin para instructor na lang problema ko :D

@T@l Blaiser
Definitely sa SM Pampanga since yun ang nearest na SM mall dito.
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PostSubject: Re: PAHELP NAMAN!!   Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:52 am

Ang layo pala ni paigenotfound. Kasi I have no problems in helping you out in finding a violin around the Quiapo area.
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PostSubject: Re: PAHELP NAMAN!!   Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:12 pm

@Halimaw_Sa_Banga
Oo nga eh as of now nga wala pa ako kakilala na violinist dito sa area namin or wala lang tlaga ako masyadong kilala :D Pero so far very helpful naman ang mga members dito kaya hindi na din ako sobrang mahihirapan sa pagpili ng violin.

Next problem ko instructor naman :D
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