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Jeje wrote:
I see..

@Doc
Sa akin kasi, priority ko ang sound, sunod ang comfort playing last and lastly yung itsura. Bonus na sakin kung maganda at presentable ang itsura.. Kasi madalas, nakapikit ako kung tumutugtog. hehehe Pero marami ako natututunang mga insights from you and Liza.

hmmn, ako naman I check the craftsmanship first. kasi yun din naman ang magdedetermine ng quality ng sound. kaya pag napili ako ng violin sa hitsura muna ko tumitingin. pag marami maganda saka ko lang sinusubukan i-play.
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@Jollyclay and Doc
In rare cases, meron din bang mga existing violins na pangit ang itsura at tipong hindi man lang kaaya aya, pero heavenly ang sound kapag tinugtog?? Nung addik pa kasi ako sa gitara dati, may mga naeencounter akong mga guitaristang mukhang gusgusin ang mga gitara nila at mukhang niremedyohan lang.. pero ang gaganda ng mga tunog..
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Totoo ba na pag nagkakaedad ang violin ay mas gumaganda ang tunog?
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ou totoo un. :D
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explain nman kung bkit luigi...
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Totoo ba na pag nagkakaedad ang violin ay mas gumaganda ang tunog?

kumporme naman yata sa factors (e.g. ano'ng kahoy, paano ginawa, ano'ng varnish, etc.) pero "in general" ganun nangyayari. i can't say for certain kasi yung Cremona ko, parang same pa din tunog sa akin. :P ahehe...
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explain nman kung bkit luigi...
ay sori! pero yan na inexplain na ni bursky. :D
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ibig bang sabihin pag old na ang violin mahal na din ang price?
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opo.
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^ uo mgndang example ang strad =)) milyon na halaga ngayun hahah pero d nmn daw lahat ng matatandang violin mggnda tunog
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ou depende rin sa maker un, kung panget pagkagawa panet na un, pero pag maganda pag kakagawa mas gaganda pa pag tumagal. :D
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@jeje
di ko rin alam kasi saglit pa nga lang ako nagba-violin eh. Siguro meron, ask mo mga experts, hehe. Pero tingin ko kung pangit na ang hitsura nyan may effect pa rin sa sound, maaring maganda ang tunog dati pero nabawasan ang ganda nito. Kaya nga yung mga antique violins di ba kailangang i-restore pa para bumalik ang ganda ng tunog. Naalala ko sabi ni mang anghel may mga copies nga lang daw ng original guarneri and strad na pag tinugtog mo ay mas maganda pa sa original! Kasi nga naman although totoo the more aged the wood, the better the sound, hindi rin maiwasan magkasakit mga yan. pwedeng maging mas fragile yung wood, or lumutong kaya easier to break.

Anyway, for me though I look at the craftsmanship first, it's just a start. I believe it depends on how the owner will take care of it. Kung mahal mo naman ito you will find ways on how to improve it diba? Pag pinabayaan mo eh malamang bababa din ang quality nyan.
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Ahh see.. hehehe

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Mga magkano kaya kelangan kong ihanda pag kukunin ko yung T18 ni Yita na 150 dollars + 58 dollars na Shipping?? hmmm
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sabi ni doceric normally daw 20% ng price declared ... so kung nasa 200 usd nung price baka nasa 40 usd ang Customs Duty ? ... around 2K ba yan ? ... ahahaha ... suri poor aq s Math .... ^_^
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hindi naman siguro ganun ka-crocs ang mga customs dito sa Region 1.. hehehe sana.. wish ko lang. Tapos hingi ako ng Favor sa kilala kong government employee din para makita ko kung mga common tao lang ang bina-bwaya nila or pati kasama nila sa Govt service.. hehehe

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made in china pala itong mga T18. T19 na ngayon sya.
gusto ko bilhin kaya lang natatakot ako. baka hindi katulad ng nasa picture.
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@Jurusu

establsished na din ang YITAMUSIC sa mga violins nila. you can ask Liza kasi nakahawak na siya ng Yita violin. Kahit pano confident ka na din kapag sa kanila ka bumili. Pra ding kay OVH na nakapag establish na ng name sa mga buyers niya.

Ok lang yan. kung sakali, you can ask doc eric.
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parang gusto ko kunin either yung strad1690 tuscan or yung guarneri cannon.
ang mura kasi nakakatakot hehehe. kelangan ko muna makakita ng yita violin na live para ma tempt ako bumili. may paypal account ako. may card din ako. hahaha. takut lang bumili.
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^ maganda ang yita violins. :) promise. Si Purfie ko dati (now with Justin), Yita yun. Maganda tunog. Tapos may mga student ako na bumili ng yita violin. Yung isang violin din ni doc eric na binenta nya dati (yung special processed edge) maganda rin tunog. Saka kung ano yung nasa picture, yun din ang makukuha mo. :D I assure you that.
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konting kalabit na lang i pupunch ko na yung card ko hahaha.
mam liza pano po yung hitsura ng label. balak ko ipatanggal yung label eh.
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Oh diba Jurusu.. Sabi naman sayo eh maganda yan eh.. you can also request for them to remove the Label, email ka lang.. saka may money back guarantee din sila..

Masyado naman na kasing stereotyped ang mga China products.
Kung sakali mang 99% ng mga made in China ay Low Q, Nasa 1% sina YITAMUSIC at OVH,.

Go na! bibili na yan!!
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backup violin ko na lang hehehe o pede ko rin ako mag buy and sell hahaha.
mas mahal kasi presyo ni suzy kaya nanghihinayang ako palitan huhuhu.

i popost ko pala sa ebay yung luma kong yamaha red violin stradivarius copy. baka may collector na bumili. 3/4 yung size tapos 1974 ginawa sa nagoya haha. pandagdag ko sa yita.
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na outbid ako sa ebay!!! grrrr.
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^yaman nag bibid sa ebay haha
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mura lang kaya yung binid ko...
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wahahhaa ung mura nian ni Jurusu mahal na saten lol
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jurusu wrote:
na outbid ako sa ebay!!! grrrr.

Dito nalang oh directa pa sa mga prices at mga items!! Mamili ka nalang ng mga type mo.. hehehe

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@kundarmah: mura kumpara sa quality hehehe. saka ilang araw ako di kakain nun hahaha.

@jeje. ty sa link. para atang ang mamahal hehehe. hanggang 100$ (excluding shipping and handling fees) lang limit ko eh nakakatakot kasi pag card.
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mga magkano po kaya ang hofner student violin??
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i'm 24 yr old and i want to learn to play violin. i played guitar before when i was in college but very basics lang nastop din kasi hinihiram ko lang guitar ko nun. Now that i'm working and have enough salary, i would like to pursue my eagerness to learn playing instruments like violin first. =)

Any advice on where to buy na swak sa budget?
What kind of brand of violin will i buy as a beginner?

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^^ Hmmmpp.. Mas maganda po atang ganito, magkano po budget niyo? Saan location. Then we will help to point out ung mga things.

Halos nga po lahat dito sa PV ganyan 20+ lol. Pero aun nga po kahit wala ka pong nasimulan na instrument. Ung iba nga pong teacher mas gusto nila ganun.
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budget ko? mmmm. cguro 10k. pero,hehhe gusto ko sana makamura kasi mag violin tututorial pako sa mga teachers na inadvice ng mga members dito sa forum nato, afterwards. =)

thanks sa mga future advice=)
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cya nga pala about sa location ko, im in MANILA near CHINESE GENERAL HOSPITAL.=)
tambay din ako around MAKATI kasi 5 days in a week nandun ako to work so i have access to glorietta if in
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What violin to Buy? - Page 2 331934 10k ba kamo?What violin to Buy? - Page 2 331934

Makakabili ka na ng handcrafted nyan! Pero baka hindi mo ma-appreciate ang handcrafted kung di ka pa nakakasubok ng mga machine made. What violin to Buy? - Page 2 408621

Kung naghahanap ka ng violin na beginner type, Madaming ganyan sa lyric, JB, lazer, etc. Hindi lalagpas ng 5k yun.

Or....

Meron ako dito extra violin. Hindi ko pa nagagamit.
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@Kb

tama si Jazten ... sobra sobra n ang 10k ... magmachine made ka muna tutal beginner violin palang nman ... later on upgrade na .. ;-)

sa Park Square magkatapat dun Lyric at JB Music ... What violin to Buy? - Page 2 238898

sa Lyric may Bachendorf ... sa JB may Cremona at Hoffner
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Ok din yung Valencia na tinda nila sa JB.. mukhang disente naman..
try mo bumili ng mga 3.5k-4k na mga violin and set aside mga 1k for set up (pag nagpunta ulit kila mang angel) and then set aside another 1k-1.5k for synthetic core strings (Red Label pwede na sa ganyang Range, pwede din order ka sa akin Innig syntheic core 400 lang per set hehehe)

So ayun pwede na yung 6k mo and then yung 4k pang lesson mo na yun.. Owrayt na ba? insight lang iyo ha.. So that you can have something to look forward to.. What violin to Buy? - Page 2 186686
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ganda nung Innig synthetic core!! dinig ko a ngaun ung potential nya!! kaya kb, bili na!! wahhh hahaha What violin to Buy? - Page 2 19586
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What violin to Buy? - Page 2 69738 thank you sa mga comments and suggestions nyo What violin to Buy? - Page 2 69738

nakakagulat ba ang budget ko,siguro dahil newbie lang ako,pero ok narin at least makakamura nako sa mga suggestions nyong budget What violin to Buy? - Page 2 566868


cya nga pala ask ko lang parehas lang ba ng level of beauty,tune etc ang bachendorf,cremonat valencia? o what im trying to ask is if there's a difference among the three types of violin that you suggest oh wala namang kaso kung ano lang ang piliin ko sa tatlo=)


What violin to Buy? - Page 2 760439 At saan po pala maganda magtutorial for violin near manila? di ko kasi alam kung kaninong teacher ako mgpapaturo afterwards What violin to Buy? - Page 2 249180 hhehee.

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@Kb

Near Espana kaba? Enroll na sa Keystrings.. Maganda dahil kaw pipili ng date of practice.

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Pero if you want pwede din sa St. Scho sa Predis.... Or sa UP

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Referral fee ko ah? heheh joke What violin to Buy? - Page 2 74395


BTW ung sa VIOLIN, I never tried Valencia. Pero para saken IMHO mas gusto ko ung bachendorff kesa Cremona. In terms of playability, pero ung tunog prang pareho lang pag naguumpisa ka palang naman


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What violin to Buy? - Page 2 903412 Opkors ganito kami sa PV! What violin to Buy? - Page 2 903412

Hindi ako expert pagdating sa mga types ng violin, Pero based on my experience hindi!
Iba iba yung quality ng tunog, Pero wag ka mag eexpect ng ganun. Beginner's violin eh.
Eh kung ipapaset-up mo, Mas mag iimprove yung sound nya. What violin to Buy? - Page 2 521404

Pili ka kung ano matipuhan mo. Lahat naman ng violin ay maganda. Depende lang sayo yun.

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ou tama tama. start ata ulit eh?? gusto ko sana mag enroll ng piano sa keystrings. sana makumbinsi si tito. hai buhay.. What violin to Buy? - Page 2 131154


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natry ko na lahat nung violin brands na sinulat mo, ung cremona ksi akin. pero based sa observation ko, SAKIN LANG AH!? VARIES DEPENDS ON PERSON. ung bachendorff. What violin to Buy? - Page 2 620245
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@kb:
palagay ko ay dapat mo'ng pakinggan ang matalinhagang payo ng kapita-pitagang Sex Bomb Dancers...

"kung ano ang nasa puso mo, sundin mo! AW!"

hehehe... but seriously, best bang-for-buck ang Bachendorff IMHO, but i prefer Cremona. wala lang. sort of i respect Bachendorff but i don't love it. mas love ko Cremona. :D so ikaw, decide mo lang kung alin talaga gusto mo for a student violin. own it. ;)
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daria_dee wrote:
Thanks Kundarmah and marc398!

When I buy, should I try how it sounds? Or will they play it for me? I'm really excited to buy na... hahaha :) And aside from the wooden tailpiece, any other value-adding features I should look for?

Btw, where did you get lessons? :)


uhm Di mo n kailangan itry patugtugin kasi di nila allow un! What violin to Buy? - Page 2 120347

pero pwee mo nmng hawakan at tignan

suggest ko silip mo ung loob ng violin tapos ung quality ng kahoy at

medyo tuktukin mo ng daliri mo ung sa side ng violin kung maganda sa pandinig mo ung

tunog ng kahoy dun madedetermine ung pagkakaukit sa kahoy kung maganda ang quality

ng sound n naiproproduce wether machine made or handmade

(esearched) tama sila na itry mo muna ung cheap n machine made para pag bumili ka ng handcraft

maapreciate mo ung handcraft ahahaha! What violin to Buy? - Page 2 112191

hahaha! Ot n me
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Jeje wrote:
@Doc
Anong wood sa tingin mo ang ginamit sa Arco? Sabagay kung sa video kasi, ang sabi nya solid "Timber" eh napaka general ng term na yun. Di nga binanggit kung anung specific na timber yun eh kung Spruce ba or maple or cedar or anu pa man.

Pero mukhang Ok naman yung tunog. Ganun ba yung ngo-ngo na G? Saka tingin mo makukuha kaya sa pagpalit ng strings yun? senxa na dami ko tanong, di pa kasi ako nagkaroon ng acquaintance sa advance na violin eh.. Puro mga cheap palang ang naging akin.. hehehe


@ Jeje Sa tingin ko po Pine or eucalyptus Tree Common kasi yan sa Australia
wala nga ako alm n gagamit ng ganun sa violin kasi ang alam ko
di applicable un gamitin sa ganung sensitibong instrument

Link sa Australina pine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Araucaria_cunninghamii

Sa eucalyptus Tree
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucalyptus_regnans
tapos derecho sa uses hahahah

o kaya Try look nlng po sa Lists
Eucalyptus Family nga lang
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Eucalypt_trees
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@kanjiruminamoto: yung sa SM Pampanga, both Lyric and JB pinapa-try yung violin. dapat pati sa ibang stores, pa-subok nila noh... or at least have their staff tune and play it for you if ayaw nila pahawak.
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@ bursky ganun po kuya bursky pinapatry jan? dito kasi pwedeng itry pag sure n bibilhin mo T_T
pero laging hindi at unf staff kasi dito sa Jb sa makati Di kasi marunong humawak o magpatugtog ng violin eh kaya di nila pinatutugtog XD
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hello.

magandang umaga po. gusto ko din sanang matutuong magviolin. medyo late na din. hehe... kaya lang di ko alam saan maguumpisa.. bibili ba muna ko ng violin? or may aaralin muna ko? kasi wala talaga akong idea e. hmmmmmm.. any help would be greatly appreciated. :)

saka ano po pala yung sinasabi niyong set up? required ba yun? pag bumili din ba ng violin e may kasama ng mga chin/ shoulder rest yung mga yun? o hiwalay pa?


salamat ng marami!
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Violin 1st.
Lesson later.

Pag bumili ka ng violin kumpleto na yun, Ready to play na.

Optional lang ang set-up sa luthiers.


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thanks justin!

research muna ako nito... gusto ko ng bumili ng maumpisahan na ang pag-aaral..
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