hi!
may nakita akong article sa net about violin brands dito sa pilipinas.
tignan nyo na lang sa link:
http://orchestra.zpmi.net/resources-brand.html


any comments?
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Wow! In details!

hahah!

Walang Velencia at Fernando? Maayos naman cla ahh.. Parang cremona din at same price range din..

uu nga eh..
wala nga rin yung brand na gamit ko (Premiere).
:D

di ko alam ung Velencia..
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I've used a valencia before.. Binili sa JB SM north.. Maayos siya. Disente na din para sa beginner at mura din.. Less than 4k ata kasi sale nun.. Reg price nasa 4.5k..

Yung premiere naman, kapareho ng LAZER at (sky)LARK.. medyo low quality kasi mass produced.. Isa ang premiere sa mga pinakamura.. though minsan kasi makaka chamba ka din ng disente.. But mostly, low standard ang Premiere at Lazer compared to cremona and Fernando..

yes.
parents ko kasi bumili ng violin ko..
sabi ko yung super mura lang muna kasi beginner pa lang nman ako, saka..
saka ayokong sila yung gumastos.
:P

Wee ako ung Violin ko Pinaghirapan ko ung pambili?
hahah
Napanalunan ko lang kasi ung Pera na pinambili ko
sa Mascot Design Drawing Contest sa Shool ko
Dapat bibilhin ko Bachendorff or Cremona
Kaso Inutang ng Kuya ko ung 1k from my 5k
Kaya Low Priced one nlng ang nabili ko

@kanji
hanggaling, mascot design drawing contest..
:P

bibili naman ako ulit eh..
cguro yung medyo intermediate na.
pero..
hindi ko alam kung ano/pano/kelan..
-__-

sana may magbenta uli dito sa PV..

Ako Valencia ang violin ko. I bought the outfit for around 3k (mga 2.8k yata) sa JB SM North. Isang Music student ang namili para sa akin. Di ko alam kung maayos ang tunog niya, hehe, kasi di ko naman alam ang criteria ng good-sounding student violin tsaka wala akong object of comparison. :)

Hindi yata talaga kilala ang Valencia at Fernando, pero yung namili ng violin ko pro Valencia at Fernando pa naman siya. Bibili ka ng Cremona, Hofner, or Bachendorff eh parepareho lang naman daw na machine-made.

Pareho din namang machine made ang Valencia at Fernando.. Kaso nga lang mas may attention to details ang finish ng Valencia at fernando..

Somehow, most fernando violins have similar color finish.. hehehe madaling madistinguish...

Oo nga, what I meant is parepareho lang silang lima, hehe.

Regarding details and finish, di ko rin madistinguish, haha. I will make a bad judge of violins.

Sanayan lang yan.. Dati ang Cremona hindi rin gano maganda yan nung unang labas.. Pero ngayon nag Improve na ang quality nila..

Cremona siguro ang binili ko kung hindi ako humingi ng saklolo. O kaya yung nagustuhan kong violin sa Baguio sa music store sa Abanao. Dark kasi ang color. Hofner yata yun.

My first one is the alfred stingl. When i played it parang dalawang aluminum foil rubbing together. brrrr turned out the steel strings are the culprit:)

@Angus
Anu ginawa mo sa baguio? taga dito ka ba? hehehe

@Rjzero
Maganda na ang mga Hoffner kahit noon.. Yun nga lang, sa mga tindahan ng mga violins, hindi sila nagsusuggest ng mga high end Synthetic Core strings like Dominants.. Puro Chipipay steel strings lang tinda nila dahil mas madali ibenta.. mas mura kasi eh.. hehehe

"H" aka: Jeje wrote:

Walang Velencia at Fernando? Maayos naman cla ahh.. Parang cremona din at same price range din..

meron ding valencia na tig 13k.. yung student ni mela (hpmacs) yun ang binili, di ko palang nakikita..

Valencia yung violin ko ngayon worth 3.5 k, di ko alam kung maganda ba o kulang quality nya or inferior lang talent ko =)) pero ayun nga after 1 year, medyo meron na akong nakikitang kaskas na mark sa fingerboard na common sa gitara. Plano ko sana bumili ng bachendorff na nasa 15 k price range kaso nadiscourage ako nung sinabi nyo na wala syang difference sa valencia. Di ko na tuloy alam kung anong brand kukunin ko kung maguupgrade ako ng instrument

@Milagring
Yung tig 15k na Bachendorff eh magandang klase na yun.. Yung nabanggit na bachendorff na konti lang difference sa fernando or cremona ay yung tig 5k na bachendorff..

I tried one (bachendorff strad pattern) sa Lyric SM pampanga, maayos naman siya.. balanced tone (in my opinion) at disente na sa mga tugtugan..

@kuya jeje: oo mganda ung bachendorff for me, kase bachendorff violin ko, nung ung violin e tag 3.5K pa mejo di ko gusto, nung bumili ako ng new, ung tag 5.1k, mejo maganda, malakas din, kaylangan lang ma set up ng maayos siguro at desenteng string at bow, dun palang sa 5k, bilib na ko, tunog violin na, hindi na parang yerong ginugupit ung sound quality ganda ng sound unlike others na kasing price nia, pero di pa ko satisfy siempre, i want much advance na violin, maganda na outfit, maganda din ung quality=]

@michael
Bilhin mo na yung tig 15k na bachendorff na nasa Lyric SM pampanga.. pwede ka pa hingi ng discount dun.. malapit ka lang naman jan diba? hehehe pinasubok ng may ari sakin yun.. maganda siya.. Halos kapareho siya ni PERPI yung violin ngayon ni justin.. Not the same pero almost similar..

konting adjustment nalang yun.. Or kahit hindi na, disente naman yun tugtugin kahit pano.. Palitan mo nalang strings na maganda.. :D

uhm.... quick question. Ang JB or salonga ba nag susupply pa Hofner na violin yung hand craft range nila. yung 20k up ang price?

i havent really been going to shops na kasi mostly i order online. pero i went to JB Megamall to shop for a new bow, wala na sila nung magaganda tulad ng before. So as Salonga sa cubao. I checked for their violins, Yung Hofner nila wala pang 10k yung mga prices (mostly kasi student level nalang) and Cremona and other brands im not familiar with na yung iba.

2 of my old violins came from Salonga, 23k na Hofner yung pre master level and sa JB dati 17k naman Hofner din, pero ngayon wala nang ganun ang halaga puro entry level nalang. Sa lyric naman puro Bachendorff e im not really a fan of the design.

Anyone aware kung san pa may Hofner na hindi student level (kahit anong branch ng JB)??

@Chino
Last time I went to JB SM North, may tinda sila na Hoffner about that price range.. Minsan naabutan ko pa mag fluctuate ang prices during sale.. Try mo tumingin dun kapag may free time ka.. :D :D

SM north??? sige sige i'l go check. For my cousin kasi. I hope they let me try it there, sa Mega kasi and sa salonga they usually dont unless they know you.

Salamat ng madami :)

chino wag ka muna pumunta sa sm north. tumawag ka muna sa jb tapos dun ka mag inquire kung saang branch may tinda na hinahanap mo.

ok thanks, hindi ko pa naman napupuntahan e. so probably tatawagan ko nga muna

ROS MUSIC do have HOfner na student violin level, price range is 33k above. You got two choices though, china made at yun Germany made. Mas mura ang china vs yun sa Germany. They both have it.

ros music is where? bothmy Hofners are german... im getting one for my cousin.

@Chino
ROS Music Center is located at 8 Mercury Avenue Bagumbayan Quezon City.

Talaga??? thats just behind my place here at eastwood. i didnt know meron dun?. pupunta ako mamaya agad after lunch. thanks :)

Wow sir Chino, paki describe naman po ang mga tinda nila jan sa ROS.. hehehe para may update din ang mga PV pipols.. thanks

walang copy of strad nb ngayon? yun student ko nakabili sa kapit bahay nila 1,500 lng kc luma na daw 3/4 copy of strad germany...XD

as in one thousand and five hundred pesos???

yup... hnde naman kc marunong un nag benta sbi ko baka meron pa bilhin ko na rin hehehehe.. sana sa lahat na meron violin na hnde na ginagamit idonate na lng sa PV. =)

Go Cha! 3/4 oh, tamang-tama para sayo. :)

Miracle wrote:

Valencia yung violin ko ngayon worth 3.5 k, di ko alam kung maganda ba o kulang quality nya or inferior lang talent ko =)) pero ayun nga after 1 year, medyo meron na akong nakikitang kaskas na mark sa fingerboard na common sa gitara. Plano ko sana bumili ng bachendorff na nasa 15 k price range kaso nadiscourage ako nung sinabi nyo na wala syang difference sa valencia. Di ko na tuloy alam kung anong brand kukunin ko kung maguupgrade ako ng instrument

ito yung binibili sa akin ng mga taga PPO. This is way better than those expensive hofners(read as overpriced). I'm not kidding. a PPO member just bought one a while ago, he sold his Bachendorff in favor of this violins. Try it you will be surprised. My viola bought by the PPO principal violist and sounded better than the 100k+ viola he was about to buy. He used that viola for his solo during the orchestra festival concert. nakaset-up na to by sir amador and he said the violins are really good considering I sell these at low prices to professional musicians. If you don't like any of these violins I can help you choose a violin that is worth the asking price.

rommel im drooling all over the place:)

here is ralph playing one of the violins. this is before the setup and bridge upgrade.

I ask the maker to give me a BIG disount that's why I can sell these good violins at low prices.
you can play on it the whole day if you want to. These violins are good enough for PPO members so I think you have an idea on the quality of these violins.
Just try all you want before you buy.

kidlat wrote:

yup... hnde naman kc marunong un nag benta sbi ko baka meron pa bilhin ko na rin hehehehe.. sana sa lahat na meron violin na hnde na ginagamit idonate na lng sa PV. =)

syet! kung feel ibenta ng student mo.. baka iconsider kong bilhin yan.. hahah!1.5k! haha!

Wooohhhhhhhh Yeaahhh!!


@Sir Rommel,
if ever magka Budget na ako by next year, sana meron pa kayong violins for sale.. Or pwede din siguro, I'll ask your help to choose one that would fit my budget.. sa ngayon kasi IPON mode pa.

Mas Ok na kasi yung matry ang violin para less hassle sa shipping and customs duties.. At least, pag kursunada na, Transact na kaagad..

yup! ako din by next year loobin before umalis makabili ng violin ulit...:)

- rommel, is it possible to try one of the instruments you have in hand. since im planning to buy, maybe i should consider getting one from you. what make are those violins? specs on the materials? fittings? thanks :)

jujube fittings ( I have 30 sets of rosewood fittings 800/set if you want to change it)
6 strad and 1 guarneri model (last month I sold 4 strad and 2 guarneri model)
spruce top
maple back
bausch bridge from sir amador
adjustment and setup made by sir Amador Tamayo
the strings are ok but if you want to upgrade I'll order dominant strings(2K per set) the last set I had was bought by ralph a few days ago.




the violins are made by a chinese maker who studied in italy. chinese labor cost is really low that's why they can sell cheap priced violins. 15k is already a lot of money for them.
bachendorf, eastman, hofner are all chinese. these violins I have are made by one maker alone.

of course you can try the violins, that's the only way you will know if a violin is good or not.
I'm willing to release the violin if you pay at least 50%, you can pay the balance in installment terms. price will depend on the violin you choose but the lowest is 15k so if you have 7500 I can let you bring the violin home.

I forgot to say that it comes with a good case and a good bow.
the violin case is good, even sir amador liked it although he won't get one because he has better violin cases.

the bow is also good considering that it's a free bow(octagonal)

Thanks Rommel. Maybe around the 3rd week of November? That is if you still have the instruments available. Il be on Sg till that time. Ive arranged a viewing with Synwin too and they recommended instruments they have for my budget. Surprisingly they listed a german hofner that ive been looking for here with a Jurgen Klier, also german and a Sofia model, which is italian naman. I guess youre well familiar of them judging your music pedigree.

Btw, do you still have the carbon bows? I thought of getting a new one too and the bows they have are quite out of my budget, the cheapest i think would be a Coda and theyre bows... I cannot afford.

i like the 50% scheme, sir rommel! i guess may interest yung balance nun? this is really promising but unfortunately ni hindi nga ako maka-bili ng carbon bow from you eh, violin pa? :P hahaha... pareho kami ni jeje: IPON MODE!!!

nevertheless, yung inquiries po about sir rommel's violins, baka mas magandang PMs or ibang thread po sa marketplace. :) (next month na ako magpi-PM sayo ha, sir rommel? matinding ipunan ito ng salapi!:P ahaha)

it's nice to know that unlike most appliances/cars/stuff we own where we rely on brand names, unbranded violins sometimes are the ones that actually come out remarkable! i think it'd more reliable to look for/learn about the violin workshop rather than the brandname.

chino_again wrote:

Thanks Rommel. Maybe around the 3rd week of November? That is if you still have the instruments available. Il be on Sg till that time. .

strings are very cheap in Sg, you might want to check it out. dominants for as low as 1500 but I don't know where because I haven't been there.

Kung malaman lang sana ang store and Address... I know 4 people in Singapore.. baka pwede makisuyo pag umuuwi sila.. hayy

- rommel

yes, strings and accesories there are pretty cheap compared to prices here. Im planning to buy this Andrea rosin which is making quite a buzz like its predecessor, the tartini

-jeje

synwin is at Marina square and at tanjong katong complex. Im sure your friends there are familiar with the place.

ahhh sa SynWyn pala.. Jan din bumili si Jollyclay ng violin nya.. hehehe cge patanong ko na din po..

Yung Andrea Rosin ba eh yung ANDREA BANG Paganini Rosin? Seasonal daw yun ayon sa maker.. Kasi kumukuha daw ng mga Pine Ingredients sa tamang season.. Sila din yata may gawa ng Andrea Bang Tartini Rosin..

Si Doc Eric yata nagsabi sakin na Andrea Bang din gamit ni Sarah Chang...

Yep, Andrea Bang. Its the reformulated version of Tartini. They have it there at around sg $50. Sole distributor sila for most countries here sa SEAsia so i guess they might have some on stock.