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PostSubject: I need someone to talk to. about violin.   I need someone to talk to. about violin. EmptySat Jan 29, 2011 12:19 am

hi! im new here po,, nabasa ko po ung thread nyo date.. so sabe nga po ng migrate po kayo d2..

i just want to know kng pano po ba bmili ng correct violin for me? ksi balak ko po sana mg violin... ksi sobrang depressed po ako ngaun,, so para d po ako mging malungkot mg vviolin po ako.. gusto ko po tlga mg violin e.. aun po, ng ikot ikot na din po ako sa raon (near quiapo) aun may nakita naman po ako dun.. pero ang problem po may nakita ako na samut saring violin dun.. may dalawang store nga dun na mgkatabi na ng bebenta ng violins e. . tpos may mga sizes sila.. e sabe dun s nabasa ko internet.. dpat daw may gantong angle ung kamay mo kpg mg pplay , dpat ung length ng arms mo dpat fit sa violin.. aun po sana may tumulong skin, i have budget of 3k.. aun po noob po ako sa violin so as in O knowledge po ako,, nursing student po ako e,, ngaun i want to play violin,., sana may mgandang tumulong skin.. aun po
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PostSubject: Re: I need someone to talk to. about violin.   I need someone to talk to. about violin. EmptySat Jan 29, 2011 12:44 am

Maraming magugulong salita ka makukuha sa internet.

I take it na adult ka na, so kung katamtaman ang reach[haba ng braso] mo bili ka na ng 4/4 o whole size violin. or kung maliit ka na tao baka sakto sa iyo ang size 3/4.

pointers: mahirap makakita ng instrumento na sakto para sa iyo, kaya kadalasan tayo ang uma adjust dapat sa instrumento. kaya pag nakakuha ka na, pag aralan mo ng mabuti ang features nito.

Kung hinde ka makapili kung ano ang tama, hanap ka ng violin teacher na puwede pumili para sa iyo.

So eto ang basic set ng violin para makapag start ka na.

- Violin & Bow.
- Shoulder rest.
- Tuner[meron naman online]
- Rosin, soft cloth, extra set of strings & violin case.

EDIT:

Tiningin ka lang dito sa mga thread, lalo na ung "Violin for dummies" magbibigay iyun sa iyo ng basic outline sa pag vi violin :D

Best wishes sa pag aaral mo ng violin.

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ahhh so dpat pla kpg bbili ako may
- Violin & Bow.
- Shoulder rest.
- Tuner[meron naman online]
- Rosin, soft cloth, extra set of strings & violin case

thank u po ah...
nasa 20 yrs old plang po ako.. nsa 5'4 ang height and length po ng arm ko is i think is 23-25 inches po.. so anu po kaya size ng violin??

jst want to ask u po if matututo po ba kaya ako ng self study lang?? matiyaga naman po ako e.. lalo na ngaun na wala ako pg lilibangan.. kng hindi lang to at ung libro ko na pang nursing..
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^pahabol po. i know its out of topic but still its important, naka indicate sa sa isa mong post na depress ka kaya gusto mo magviolin. papaano kung hindi kana depress? would you still consider to practice? or just gonna leave it for awhile then kapag depress kana ule tsaka mo siya babalikan?

regarding sa tanong mo, may nakita ako papaano mo malalaman kung tama yun sukat ng violin sayo, hold mo yun violin sa proper position niya then abutin mo un scroll(un dulo ng violin) tapus dapat naka nakabend yun arms mo hindi dapat sakto
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PostSubject: Re: I need someone to talk to. about violin.   I need someone to talk to. about violin. EmptySat Jan 29, 2011 1:27 am

Kakayanin mo ang whole size na 4/4. :D

So kailangan ba ng teacher?

Yes, kailangan mo na may mag tuturo sa iyo.

Mahirap mag aral mag isa. may mga bagay na aabutin ka ng pagkatagal para makuha, pero saglitan lang pag may teacher. So para maka iwas sa " Learning Frustration" I suggest na maglesson ka hangang ma completo mo ung grade 1 or at least makuha mo lang ung fundamentals ng violin. Puwede ka nang mag self study or kumuha ng "per lesson" para sa mga advance na technique.





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@fox- hmm, about sa depress po, i would consider to practice kahit na hindi nq depress.. =) kpg bnili ko na po ung violin itutuloy ko na po un hangang tumanda ako.. aun po.. so dpat ung sa dulo ng violin (scroll) dpat nka bend ung arms ko at hindi straight? ok po tnx po sa tip!!!

@talblasier- ahhh so ok na po ung 4/4? sige po tom if nagkatym ako try ko po pmunta ng raon den try ko po tgnan ung 4/4.. aun po.. so about dun sa sound ng violin na ipproduce nya, depende na un dba sa gusto ko.. =)

magkano po kaya ung aabutin para matutunan ko ung fundamentals ng violin?
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Right, nasabi na ni Tal at Fox ang dapat tungkol sa violin. And as for your depression, outside of playing/learning the violin, I strongly suggest that you talk to a friend or counselor.

Best of luck, mate.

EDIT: Regarding the price of lessons, depende kasi yan kung saan ka magte-take ng lessons. Kung sa music schools ka mage-enroll, nasa 6k-7k yun for 18 lessons. May iba na nag-o-offer ng group lessons, check mo na lang sa ibang threads. For sure may mas mura naman na magtuturo diyan.
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@amrita- ok po tnx for ur suggestion about my depression..tnx po

ah.. nsa 6k to 7k pla sya.. ung 18 lesson na po na un, ilang hrs or days po un???
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@talblasier- ahhh so ok na po ung 4/4? sige po tom if nagkatym ako try ko po pmunta ng raon den try ko po tgnan ung 4/4.. aun po.. so about dun sa sound ng violin na ipproduce nya, depende na un dba sa gusto ko.. =)

magkano po kaya ung aabutin para matutunan ko ung fundamentals ng violin?

Well do a research muna sa violin, ung mga parts nito for instance, dapat may "Sound post" nakikita mo ung poste sa loob ng violin, dapat may ganyan ang kukunin mo, meroon diyan wala.

Okay since pang beginner mo pa lang ito, eto ang gawin mo pag titingin ng violin:

- Good construction, walang kahoy na naka usli na puwede maka tusok.
- try as many as you can. hanapin mo ung gusto mo ang itsura at ang tunog.
- magaan ang hanapin para hinde mahirapan sa pag ipit sa leeg.
- hinde dapat nakadikit ang fingerboard sa top plate ng violin, dapat kasya ang hinliliit/pinkie mo sa ilalim nito.
- Mas malakas at maingay ang tunog, mas okay![kaya bili ka rin ng mute]

About the sound. since first violin mo ito. Basta hinde ipit ang tunog ayos na, pag maganda ang construction ng violin kagaya ng mga Bachendorff, Cremona, Parrot etc... marami pa diyan. mapapatunog mo iyan ng maganda.







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Dag dag:

Ung fundamentals? hmmm hinde ko masasabi depende iyan sa iyo ^^;

so makinig sa instructor, practisin ang mga exercises na binigay. at mag research at makipag usap sa mga kapwa mo violinist lalo na dito, marami dito puwedeng tumulong sa mga katanungan mo. :D

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^TAMA!

maraming PVees na makakatulong sayo

kagaya nyan c tal, (aiyee) mabaet (ano daw) nagpriprisinta sa mga kagaya naten wala pa alam sa violin na tuturuan daw niya kahit basic..
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@ Fox: wag ka mag broadcast he he he! maganda kasi na may alam kayo na basic bago mag lesson para hinde mahirapan ang teacher at masulit ninyo kaagad lolz!
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^aba kailangan talaga ibroadcast ang iyong pagkadakila ='p
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He he he maniningil na ako ng meryenda para mabawasan ang pagkadakila lolz!
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^Ay teka pwede ata magdelete ng mga post replies hahaha

@Topic

bago kame pa off ule sa topic. goodluck sa pagbili, ang ang pinakaimportante un gut feeling mo na thats for you kapag nakita mo yun violin
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amrita_sama wrote:
EDIT: Regarding the price of lessons, depende kasi yan kung saan ka magte-take ng lessons. Kung sa music schools ka mage-enroll, nasa 6k-7k yun for 18 lessons. May iba na nag-o-offer ng group lessons, check mo na lang sa ibang threads. For sure may mas mura naman na magtuturo diyan.

He he he, nataga ako! nataga ako! ang mahal sa lyrics, mga 7k for 12 lessons ^^;

plano ko lumipat ng UP pagkatapos ko dito sa lyrics... hanap ako ng teacher doon. Kaso, ung instructor ko ngayon talaga alam na niya ung phase para sa akin, nangangapa kasi kami noong mga unang lessons ^^;


@ gianne671: magaling na naisipan mo ang violin, maganda na ginagawan mo ng solution ang depression mo.

@ fox: TOO LATE! he he he, de dyoke lang :D
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@gianne
Ako naman ang masasabi ko lang ang violin playing sa ngayon mahirap talaga pero worth it pag natuto ka. May I ask ilang taon kna? para malaman naten what violin will suit you.

Saka ako nung nagaral ako ng violin di ako depressed kaso nung nagviolin ako dun ako na Depressed! LOL di kasi tulad ng piano patugtugin mo ng twinkle ang beginner eh maganda na agad tunog, sa violin diyos ko di lang ikaw mastress pati kasama mo sa bahay ahahah.

BTW, Basta gusto mo kaya yan! Basta may time kami matutulungan ka namen sa paghahanap. ~__~ Halos lahat kami dito magkakakilala na personal. So be free to ask, or if you need someone na makapagtest nung violin
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@ Mr.President
sabi niya nasa 20yrs old na siya huwag na nating tanungin ung Mismong digits hehe

Girl ka ba Gianne? mukha kasing Babae ung nickname mo eh or nickname lang un?

uhm...

sa Violin Lessons..
@ Tal uu mahal sa lyric magpaturo lugi ka doon at di rin masyadong ituturo ung
dapat mong matutunan...

<<< me
I take up private tutor heheh, Mura lang ung binabayaran ko kaysa sa lyric
ako nalang pumupunta sa Dorm ng Teacher ko and anghigpit niyang
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@ fox & tal- tnx po sa mga tips po ninyo!

@tal- kuya pwd nyo po ba ako samahan bumili at tumingin ng violin.. dalawa po ksi kme ng barkada ko na bibili e.. so we're planning talaga to buy violin aun po, sa raon po sana e,, 2,5k ung budget .. matutulungan nyo po ba ako?tga blumentritt po ako.. =)
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^Welcome

O? pupunta din ako raon hahanap ng strings,. yun magaling ko string napigtas e
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@ adim - ayy gnun?/ hahahaha.. mukang ma ddepress nga yung mga ka dorm ko nto ah! ahhahahah! kawawa naman sila! hahaha! pero na inspire po ako sa sinabe nyo! =) tnx po ah

@kanjiruminamoto- sakto po .. 20 yrs old po ako.. hehehe.. lalaki po ako,, PURE po.. hahaha! gn2 lang po ako mg salita e..masyadong magalang.. =)

mamaya po sana ppnta ako sa raon.. actually naka ikot na ako dun e.. nakakita nq ng music store na ng bebenta ng violin.. pero siempre po gusto ko po na kht na bbili po ako masusulit ko po ung budget ko na 2.5k para sa violin.. actually po 2 violin bbbilin ko e.. so makakakuha kme ng BIG DC nun kung bbilin ko dba.. ung isa po na violin para sa isang barkada ko po din un.. ng decide po ksi kme na mg violin e.. pero un hindi depress un gusto lang tlga nya .. hahahah

hope u can help us.. e2 po ung digit ko po 9056867664.. ayan po.. txt nyo nlng po ako.. im near blumentritt, sooo.. pwd po ako ng 5pm onwards.. ksi po ppnta po ako ng ateneo for a cosplay event, tna try ko po libangin ung sarili ko.. aun po tnx po!!

sana makilala ko din po kayo ng personal.. =)
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@fox- ay tlga po?? kelan po???? anung oras at time po? txt nyo po ako ! hahaha 5pm po ksi ako available e..
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^maya po kasi hindi ako mapagpractice na kulang ang string
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ahhh.. gnun po.. anung oras po kayo ppta doon?
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mga 3-4 pm nga lang hindi ako pwede abutin ng 5 kasi alam ko delikado dun e
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ahh.. gnun po ba? hindi ko alam un ah.. hehehe.. o sige po pwd nyo po ba ako itxt ngaun? nsa taas po ung no. ko oh.. aun po txt nyo nlng po ako kpg papnta na kayo ng raon,, =) pls po? para po malaman ko kng mahahabol ko po kayo.. aun po tnx po paluwas na po ako manila ngaun e..
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gianne at gian =))
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ayy may kapangalan po pla ako d2? heheeh.. @ fox- txt nyo nlng po ako kpg papnta na kayo ah.. tnx po

hi near! violinist ka dn ba?? hehee
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@ gianne671: nandito ako sa bulacan ngayon, sa monday pa ako luwas manila, pero bukas nasa manila ako[SM North] pero maganda nga siguro sa Raon bumili dahil mahal sa mga SM music store.

pero kung gusto mo maka discount talaga, antayin mo magka 50% off sale ang JB music. Ang ayaw ko lang sa Raon minsan kasi parang nasa SM din ang singil nila[minsan mas mataas pa] pero puwede ka makipag tawaran. kagaya dati 3k daw ung valencia guitar nila, pero natawaran ko ng 2.2 tapos ung sa SM ay 1.6-1.8k lang pala, nagago ang pakiramdam ko.

Kaya maganda magtingin/canvas ka muna sa mga JB, Lyrics o Yupangco, para may basehan ka ng price regarding sa brand.
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Fox wrote:
mga 3-4 pm nga lang hindi ako pwede abutin ng 5 kasi alam ko delikado dun e

He he he delikado pag mukha kang naligaw doon, alam nila na baguhan ka doon at puwedeng e hold up he he he. maaga magsara ang mga store doon[7 pm?] kaya maganda ma aga aga magtingin doon para makarami ng pag try ng violin :D

EDIT: Alam mo Gianne, decente na ang Parrot violin iyun ang gamit ng instructor ko at kaya ko na rin gamitin nang nakapag aral na ako ng violin, mas mura pa ito sa Cremona.

Pointers: Kahit maganda ang violin, pag wala mag bibigay sa iyo ng instruction sa umpisa iiyak lang ang tunog nito.
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He he he, nataga ako! nataga ako! ang mahal sa lyrics, mga 7k for 12 lessons ^^;

plano ko lumipat ng UP pagkatapos ko dito sa lyrics... hanap ako ng teacher doon. Kaso, ung instructor ko ngayon talaga alam na niya ung phase para sa akin, nangangapa kasi kami noong mga unang lessons ^^;

:D

Tal mas mahal ata sa UP kasi 30 minutes lang per session sila. Nakakabitin.
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@ jurusu: ganun!? mas mahal pa? anycase susubukan ko ung summer class nila.

... sa iyo na lang kaya ako mag lesson :D
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@tal
5k sa up 30mins then 10k naman un 1hr per session nila, 14 session lang alam ko sa kanila e


@Topic
nakabili na kanina si gianne ng mozart
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@ Fox: sinamahan mo? nakasubok na rin ako ng mozart, okay rin iyan. magkano kuha?
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^nagkita kame kase bumili ako string, 1.8k kuha niya

sabi 100 un alice pero ang tawad ko lang hangang 120 T__T
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@ fox: 120? saan ka bumili? tumaas na ba ung strings ngayon? 100 lang ang bili ko sa may salongga noon, mga bandang december... siguro dapat nag umpisa ka sa 50 sa tawaran, baka nag abot pa kayo ng 100.
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^dun ako sa sound post bumili dun kase bumili si gianne, 150 binibigay sakin e kaso kulang talaga pera ko haha 150 lang sakto bitbit ko haha patawa nga e un paalis na kami tska nagtanong sa may ari kung may tawad pa. sabi nung may ari 120 nalang edi kinuha ko na haha

ps text mo kung tuloy bukas
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@ Fox: nandun ako bukas. 1-2 p.m ang lesson ko. text text tayo pala.

Also, matagal mag break in ang string ng Alice brand, kaya mag rock n' Roll ka na ngayon para medyo lumambot iyan bukas he he he
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@tal nasa trinoma din ung PV peeps tapos foodtrip papuntang SM North ung mga fellow PV peeps. lunch break onwards. Para makilala nio naren sila ^^
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@ President: all right pala bukas, magdadala rin sila ng mga violins? Sa wakas makaka meet na rin ako ng mga PV members... un instructor ko pala e member din dito, hinde lang kami magkilala dahil naka alias he he he.


Ayun pala Fox meet din natin ung mga PV peeps bukas.
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^Sure I need someone to talk to. about violin. 232803

@Presz

Text niyo kame tom kung san kayo nakatambay tomorrow, tapus kitain namin kayo after class ni tal
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@fox- tnx sa pagsama kahapon ah.. e2 medyo depressed ako ngaun hahaha! pero na identify ko na kng panu maiiwasan ung pg "screat" na sound ng violin.. hahahah ng lelesson ako ngaun sa youtube e.. currently hinhanap ko naman ung sinasabe mong thread na "yamaha" tama ba?? d ko makita..


@tal-oo nga e.. kakaiyak nga! ahhahah! pero ok na din ung step by step.. d naman ako nagmamadali.. ingat po.....


to all: maliban po sa pag position ng violin sa chin at paghawak ng correct bow, anu na po ung kasunod na dpat kung matutunan? hahahha
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@ Gianne
1.Tamang PAg Bow/ Paghagod ng Bow sa Violin
2.Finger Position
3.Pagbasa ng Notes at Symbols


Ayan muna ung dapat mong Matutunan..
huwag kang papatagal sa Self Study ha
Kasi nadedevelop ung Bad Habits sa Self Study
Pero ayos lang ung kasi madali lang nmn din Mawala un
basta susunod lang sa teasche pag may Teacher ka na.
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@Tal

Salamat sa lessons at sa strings

@gianne
violinmasterclass.com yun ~_~
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