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PostSubject: What violin to Buy?   What violin to Buy? EmptyMon Mar 29, 2010 12:10 am

Hello!

I'm new here. Found this link in PEX. My friend and I are interested in learning how to play the violin. What violin should we buy? Any other accessories we should get for the violin? Thanks!
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daria_dee wrote:
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I'm new here. Found this link in PEX. My friend and I are interested in learning how to play the violin. What violin should we buy? Any other accessories we should get for the violin? Thanks!

What's your location? and estimated budget po for the violin :3
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Hello!

I'm new here. Found this link in PEX. My friend and I are interested in learning how to play the violin. What violin should we buy? Any other accessories we should get for the violin? Thanks!

ahhmm cguru shoulder rest for accesorry and another pair of strings incase maputol and maybe music stand if you prefer..ahhh kulang pa pla pamunas :lol: sa violin wla ako masusuggest hahah :lol:
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daria_dee wrote:
Hello!

I'm new here. Found this link in PEX. My friend and I are interested in learning how to play the violin. What violin should we buy? Any other accessories we should get for the violin? Thanks!


Hi,
welcome to this thread.

madami po beginner violin sa malls.
brands are: bachendorff, cremona, mozart, schindler, etc (hehe, nakalimutan ko na yung iba).

pag bumili ka naman ng violin may rosin at bow na din yung kasama.
if you are not so much into tuning, it would be good also if you can have 1 tuner and 1 shoulder rest.

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PostSubject: Re: What violin to Buy?   What violin to Buy? EmptyMon Mar 29, 2010 8:49 pm

Wow, lot's of answers! Thanks

@kundarmah Hi!I live near sm north/ trinoma (as in, walking distance). Estimated budget? Hmm, less than 7K I guess, all in! I want to invest more in lessons though.

@marc398 Thanks! I'll keep those in mind when I buy :)

@lionh3a12t Thank sa info! Went to JB Music at trinoma earlier. They have a sale. I saw these brands: Hofner, Schindler, Cremona, Fernando. Which would you recommend? They're all within budget, so I really don't know which to choose. Hindi na ko pumasok to ask kasi wala din naman ako matatanong. I don't know pa how to play.
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Wow, lot's of answers! Thanks

@kundarmah Hi!I live near sm north/ trinoma (as in, walking distance). Estimated budget? Hmm, less than 7K I guess, all in! I want to invest more in lessons though.

@marc398 Thanks! I'll keep those in mind when I buy :)

@lionh3a12t Thank sa info! Went to JB Music at trinoma earlier. They have a sale. I saw these brands: Hofner, Schindler, Cremona, Fernando. Which would you recommend? They're all within budget, so I really don't know which to choose. Hindi na ko pumasok to ask kasi wala din naman ako matatanong. I don't know pa how to play.

ahhmm maybe cremona?cremona din kasi yung akin eh. kung kaya nmn ng budget mo kung ako sayu eh hoffner na :D ahh tignan mo narin yung violin kung gus2 mo kasi madalas gnun eh kung anu mapupusuan mo dun ka :D pero nakakita ako d2 sa robinsons padre faura knina lng lazer ang tatak nya kahoy na ang tailpiece i think its around 3.5k
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Wow, lot's of answers! Thanks

@kundarmah Hi!I live near sm north/ trinoma (as in, walking distance). Estimated budget? Hmm, less than 7K I guess, all in! I want to invest more in lessons though.

@marc398 Thanks! I'll keep those in mind when I buy :)

@lionh3a12t Thank sa info! Went to JB Music at trinoma earlier. They have a sale. I saw these brands: Hofner, Schindler, Cremona, Fernando. Which would you recommend? They're all within budget, so I really don't know which to choose. Hindi na ko pumasok to ask kasi wala din naman ako matatanong. I don't know pa how to play.

ahhmm maybe cremona?cremona din kasi yung akin eh. kung kaya nmn ng budget mo kung ako sayu eh hoffner na :D ahh tignan mo narin yung violin kung gus2 mo kasi madalas gnun eh kung anu mapupusuan mo dun ka :D pero nakakita ako d2 sa robinsons padre faura knina lng lazer ang tatak nya kahoy na ang tailpiece i think its around 3.5k

Amf yan sabay tayong ng post. XD Nagerror tuloy aken wahahhaha. Pero ganun din, Cremona if you want to invest more on lessons, kung may sobrang budget Hofner. Ask mo din kung may BAchendorff Tested ko na maganda din. Wala din naman kami alam nung bumili kami pero basta napusuan mo mamahalin mo paren siya kahit anong mangyari hehehe
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Thanks Kundarmah and marc398!

When I buy, should I try how it sounds? Or will they play it for me? I'm really excited to buy na... hahaha :) And aside from the wooden tailpiece, any other value-adding features I should look for?

Btw, where did you get lessons? :)
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Thanks Kundarmah and marc398!

When I buy, should I try how it sounds? Or will they play it for me? I'm really excited to buy na... hahaha :) And aside from the wooden tailpiece, any other value-adding features I should look for?

Btw, where did you get lessons? :)

lol.. You don't need to play it naman. Just feel "her" lol puro babae kasi violin ko XD. Sa ngayon dahil di kapa marunong makapagplay. Aesthetics muna tignan mo :3 ung type mo lang.

Saka dont trust the sellers they don't even know what they are selling hehehe. Kahit nga pagkabit nung bridge di nila alam XD
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Thanks Kundarmah and marc398!

When I buy, should I try how it sounds? Or will they play it for me? I'm really excited to buy na... hahaha :) And aside from the wooden tailpiece, any other value-adding features I should look for?

Btw, where did you get lessons? :)

i self studied lol

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tol mahal ang bachendorff eh 13k ata yung sa lyric dba? nakisabay ka kasi sakin mag post eh haaha
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Oohoh, so it's possible to self study?

I'll buy tomorrow if that's the case! haha... Para I can try during the long weekend :)
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Oohoh, so it's possible to self study?

I'll buy tomorrow if that's the case! haha... Para I can try during the long weekend :)

pwede cya kaso mas ok pren may teacher para kung meron kang bad habits eh maaayus agad balak ko nga sa pasukan mageenroll ako kay ma'am liza :D
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Who's Ma'am Liza? Where does she teach?
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Who's Ma'am Liza? Where does she teach?

pinaka pro cya samin :lol: chaka violin teacher tlga cya alam ko sa sampaloc cya nag teateach eh near UST d ko lng alam kung sa sta. ana na ngayun.
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hi daria_dee

i think one thing you should check also are the pegs.
check mo kung madali ba magloosen up yung pegs kapag iturn.

i also started ng self study for a couple of weeks.
then I enrolled to mam liza also.
ok din magself study, though kapag may teacher kasi mas mafoforce ka na ayusin yung pagplay mo pati mawala yung bad habits.

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hi daria_dee

i think one thing you should check also are the pegs.
check mo kung madali ba magloosen up yung pegs kapag iturn.

i also started ng self study for a couple of weeks.
then I enrolled to mam liza also.
ok din magself study, though kapag may teacher kasi mas mafoforce ka na ayusin yung pagplay mo pati mawala yung bad habits.

you can pm mam liza here. she's one of the mods.

mas magaling ka na nga sakin ngayun kuya carl eh :lol: mas nauna pa ko sayu mag violin =)


nyek. puro kaya exercise lang ang alam ko at kalahati ng suzuki book 1.
kaw puro piece. mga kinapa mo pa. you're malufet! haha... :face:
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hi daria_dee

i think one thing you should check also are the pegs.
check mo kung madali ba magloosen up yung pegs kapag iturn.

i also started ng self study for a couple of weeks.
then I enrolled to mam liza also.
ok din magself study, though kapag may teacher kasi mas mafoforce ka na ayusin yung pagplay mo pati mawala yung bad habits.

you can pm mam liza here. she's one of the mods.

mas magaling ka na nga sakin ngayun kuya carl eh :lol: mas nauna pa ko sayu mag violin =)


nyek. puro kaya exercise lang ang alam ko at kalahati ng suzuki book 1.
kaw puro piece. mga kinapa mo pa. you're malufet! haha... :face:

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hi daria_dee

i think one thing you should check also are the pegs.
check mo kung madali ba magloosen up yung pegs kapag iturn.

i also started ng self study for a couple of weeks.
then I enrolled to mam liza also.
ok din magself study, though kapag may teacher kasi mas mafoforce ka na ayusin yung pagplay mo pati mawala yung bad habits.

you can pm mam liza here. she's one of the mods.

mas magaling ka na nga sakin ngayun kuya carl eh :lol: mas nauna pa ko sayu mag violin =)


nyek. puro kaya exercise lang ang alam ko at kalahati ng suzuki book 1.
kaw puro piece. mga kinapa mo pa. you're malufet! haha... :face:

Grabe mga pasaway na MODS OT!!!!!

eh panu kase d ako makapasok sa chatbox! hahahha kaya d2 kami nag OT hahahah
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What do you mean na di makapasok?

pag cliniclick ko you must be connected tpos pag dun nmn ako nag log in log in lng as in log in tpos pagsachrome nmn d ako makalog in
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@Daria_Dee,
sobra na yang budget mo na 7K for a beginner violin. I suggest bili ka ng bachendorff or Hoffner sa Lyric or JB music respectively. May matitira pa sayo pabili ng shoulder rest at tuner...hehehe
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Sorry mod.. hehhe

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@daria_dee: cguro walang matututulong sayo ung staff sa JB eh wala sa kanila ang marunong magplay
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Guys what do you think about this store?
may violin sila na ARCO violin outfit.. maganda rin tunog at disente din kasi hand made daw.


I just inquired Via email sa animato violin australia tinanong ko kung nagshiship din ba sila sa pinas at magkano ang charge. Ang sagot sa akin (Mabilis magreply, within the hour yata)

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If it is normal post, we will charge $35 and if you want EMS , we will charge $50.
We also do not accept fake card.
Perhaps, it will be economical for you to buy in Philippines.

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Pinaliwanag ko na ang mga nagflood sa market na violin eh factory made galing China. At bilang violin fanatic, mas concerned ako sa tunog at quality ng violin kesa sa presyo..Tapos Nag email ulit ako, sabi ko wala akong credit card. Kaya nag offer ako ng other alternative for payment (Western Union money transfer) at tinanong ko kung ok lang sa kanila yun.. ito reply nila.

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Western union is fine.
Our address is PO BOX 267 RED HILL QLD 4059
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ahhh hehehehe wala pa ako pera..

Pinost ko lang yan for REFERENCE sa mga gustong bumili.. ahihihihi pero kapag nagkapera ako at walang magandang maiooffer mga ka PVers natin, dito ako bibili.. ambilis magreply sa email eh.. at sinasagot ang mga inquiry ko.. hehhehe
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wag na wag kayo magkakamali bilin yang violin na yan. Unang una quality ng wood sobrang baba. para lang mga wood ng mga machine made violin. Hindi pa ata maple at spruce ang ginamit. Ngo ngo pa ang G string. Ang maganda lang sa kanya ay yung bridge..at least aubert ang ginamit. Ang price nya mahal pa para sa isang entry level student violin. Hay nako talong talo dyan. hehehe.

Pinagmalaki pa na ebony ang fittings eh lahat naman ngayun ebony ang standard fittings ng mga violin. hehehe
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^ doc pag bumili ako ng violin kayu mag judge ah :D
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@daria- salae sa trinoma? how much po ung mga violin? the cheapest one T_T
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sure..pero mas maganda talaga yung makikita at mahahawakan mo personally...=)
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@doc- aq dn pag bumili pa check :D
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nyayyy bakit lahat ba kayo plano bumili online? dapat ang mga bilin nyo yung mga tested na. Galing sa mga fellow enthusiast hehehe. Pero sige try natin tingnan. Di naman ako expert sa violin pero alam din naman natin ang may quality compared sa wala...=)
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@marc,
ako kasi tinitingnan ko talaga ng close up yung mga wood na ginamit bago ko bilin ang violin. Humihingi ako ng super close up na picture ng lahat ng angles at mga sulok sulok from there makakapag judge nako kung may alam nga talaga yung gumawa pati na din yung quality ng wood na ginamit. Dami din ako natutunan sa mga master luthiers natin eh heheheh...=)

pero nothing can compare pa din sa personally mo nakita at nahawakan yung violin. Mas maganda natugtog mo pa. Yun ang pinaka the best na paraan ng pagbili ng violin hindi yung picture lang.
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@Doc
Anong wood sa tingin mo ang ginamit sa Arco? Sabagay kung sa video kasi, ang sabi nya solid "Timber" eh napaka general ng term na yun. Di nga binanggit kung anung specific na timber yun eh kung Spruce ba or maple or cedar or anu pa man.

Pero mukhang Ok naman yung tunog. Ganun ba yung ngo-ngo na G? Saka tingin mo makukuha kaya sa pagpalit ng strings yun? senxa na dami ko tanong, di pa kasi ako nagkaroon ng acquaintance sa advance na violin eh.. Puro mga cheap palang ang naging akin.. hehehe
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@Jeje,
di ko din alam yung wood na ginamit dapat sinabi nya spruce and maple kung yun ang ginamit. I'm sure ordinary wood lang yun. Wala nga kahit konti man lang na flames, pati scroll hindi pulido. Pero yung varnish nya kakulay ng Fernando hehehe. Maganda yung bridge nya kaya medyo gumanda na ng konti yung sound saka upgraded string na daw, hindi naman sinabi kung ano string. Basta super ordinaryo lang yun hahah mahal para sa price nya. Yung ganun price may makukuha ka na na decent advanced violin sa Yita or OVH e.
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PostSubject: Re: What violin to Buy?   What violin to Buy? EmptyFri Apr 16, 2010 2:54 pm

actually doc, yung violin ni Haylie Ecker na Guadadini, wala ring flame. Pero antique kasi sobra eh. Sabi ni Haylie (sa twitter), original guadadini violin nya. Yung mga guadadini daw eh yung parang "China-handcrafted-strad style" sa time natin (in my own interpretation). Maganda yung tunog, wala nga lang flame.

May mga violin naman akong nakita at natugtugan (from other violinists saka mga pro) na maganda tunog kahit hindi masyadong maganda ang scroll (kasi minsan pinapalitan yung scroll eh, lalo na yung mga antique). Saka sabi nga ng teacher ko, magandang factor na maganda ang tunog ng violin, pero mas malaki ang factor na dapat magaling din ang player para mas lumabas ang tunog. :D
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may mga magagandang wood without flame, yung iba nga several thousand USD ang price but definitely not that Arco violin. Don't tell me nagagandahan ka dun? hehehe

saka hindi lahat ng guadagnini walang flames, Yung kay Vanessa mae ay Gudagnini eh bakit may mga flames? hehehe. Nagkataon lang siguro yung Guadagnini ni haylie eh walang Flame...


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hindi. pero reasonable naman. hehe. :)
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for a beginner violin? hindi sya reasonable. ang mahal kaya aabot pati shipping ng 13K ata
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I see..

@Doc
Sa akin kasi, priority ko ang sound, sunod ang comfort playing last and lastly yung itsura. Bonus na sakin kung maganda at presentable ang itsura.. Kasi madalas, nakapikit ako kung tumutugtog. hehehe Pero marami ako natututunang mga insights from you and Liza.

Another Question Doc, kung sakali bang addressed dito sa baguio ang oorderin ko kasy Yita, haharangin pa kaya yun sa manila at kelangan ko pa bumaba at magbayad ng customs sa Manila?? Im not really sure kung sa customs ng Region 1 mapupunta yun just in case..

@Liza
Guadadini pala yung violin nya.. Nabanggit nya minsan sa isang interview article na mas mahal pa ang violin nya kesa sa bahay nya.. hehehehe antique pala yun..
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^sarap mag ka violin na gnun mas mahal pa sa bahay mo :)
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Jeje,
Yup malamang dyan sa post office sa region nyo ang bagsak nun. May customs din dyan so dyan mo na kukunin at magbabayad....=)

Guadagnini yun hindi Guadadini...baka typo error lang ni Liza yun hehehe...=)
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Hay its relieving... buti nalang hindi ko na kelangan pumunta ng customs pasay. Di bale malapit lang customs dito samin. just in case mag order na ako, dito ko nalang sa baguio ipapaaddress. Pero yun ay pag nagkapera na ako.. hehehe
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hahaha... oo nga. sorry. typo nga. nasa isip ko Guadagnini... hehe. bakit 'd' ang nilagay ko? arg...
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marc398 wrote:
^sarap mag ka violin na gnun mas mahal pa sa bahay mo :)

Siguro kung magtatapon na ako ng pera, bibilhin ko yan.. hehehe pero sa ngayun, pipiliin ko nalang bahay!! ahihihihi
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